Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, William Edward Burghardt Du Bois, Frederick Douglas, Sojourner Truth, Booker T. Washington....yep, they did nothing...except change the world, but only a little. They could have changed the world SO much more.
These amazing people are the exception to the rule. Just like so many others who .. 1 Have jobs 2 Contribute to society 3 Pay taxes 4 Are trying to make a difference Take away welfare and see what happens. Govt needs to QUIT subsidising (sp) black, white, mexicans etc... and make some serious changes. Since we don't have signature lines mine would be... _________________________________________ You can't help someone who won't help themselves!
wow all i can say is wow -- [FONT=Arial,sans-serif]"Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism."[/FONT] [FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Hubert H. Humphrey[/FONT] so you know that all those of whom you speak are not contributing to society -- not making a difference, and not trying to rise above the circumstances in which they find themselves -- sweeping generalizations do little towards promoting understanding and therefore finding a solution
I could say much about the welfare/support system but I will stay with the slavery issue...lol... As long as it is never generalized but realized that there are always exceptions to the rule, both good and bad. Oh, and I do agree with your signature! People who make differences are the ones that think outside of the box and help themselves and others. Unless you happen to hit the lotto...and still your contributed that dollar for the education fund, see!
I can think of no circumstances under which slavery is acceptable. There is no way to say anyone deserved to be held in slavery by anyone else, no matter what we think of their lifestyle. An apology for past wrongs does not necessarily excuse current behaviors. Can we separate the issues? Can we say slavery was wrong, period? Can we then discuss the welfare system as a separate, current issue?
I don't think it is the black people who need to get over this, I think it is the stupid (mainly white) liberal democrats who keep bringing it up. And I think they have an agenda... that if they keep reminding black people that they are VICTIMS, they will continue to act victimized and will continue to look to the government for victim's assistance, which will ultimately continue make them VICTIMS dependent on government assistance. Keep 'em victimized and dependent (so we can keep their votes)... vicious cycle. It seems to me that they are being told they are dependent on the government for success, when what many of the most successful black Americans say is the total opposite. They already have the same opportunities in this country as white Americans have, IF they get a good education, work for success, and stay as far away from government handouts as possible! (I'm sure this agenda will start in the Latino communities very soon, if it hasn't already. Actually, I guess it has already started. :roll: ) This is exactly how I think but thinking like this does not make me a racist! http://www.neoperspectives.com/billcosby.htm
I'm not saying everyone on welfare. Heck I've been on unemployment, I've had to use the FREE clinic because I didn't have insurance. The people who abuse the system are a HUGE problem!!!
I think we should gather up all of the freed slaves and have all of their ex-owners personally apologize to them. Until we do that, we are wasting our time. My brother was born in Africa. I also use to work with an African that became an American citizen. Those are the only two African-Americans I know. Spare me with the PC CRAP!
so explain to me how you think the HUGE problem should be solved -- from what i have read from thread to thread -- so many want vouchers for school -- so many want to throw out all the trouble makers --special schools for pregnant girls --take away welfare --don't raise minimum wage--don't raise taxes for the good of the whole ie infrastructure and schools--- the list is endless of how so many who post here on 4042.com want to further divide the haves from the have nots - -- what are the solutions to helping the generational poor break the cycle?? are we to walk away and think that ignoring those who cannot/have not broken the cycle will solve the problem on their own -- Holocaust Museum, Washington, DC Thou shalt not be a victim. Thou shalt not be a perpetrator. Above all, thou shalt not be a bystander. could there be better managed programs -- yes -- is there too much bureaucracy? most definitely--- but what is the solution to help break the cycle of generational poverty which includes but is not limited to poor education, substandard healthcare, low wages, hunger, violence and hopelessness??? Howard Winters Civilization is the process in which one gradually increases the number of people included in the term 'we' or 'us' and at the same time decreases those labeled 'you' or 'them' until that category has no one left in it.
I think you have the white liberal democrats and the black liberal democrats that need to get over it.
Well I am a white democrat, and on some things I am a liberal, others I am a conservative. Does that make me semi-stupid or what?
Hundreds of billions of dollars to the allegedly "aggrieved". I say that because the push for apologies is based upon the basic plan coming out of black legal circles for reparations lawsuits. They are waiting with their fork and knife in hand, for these apologies. Apologies from those living today are going to be put out there as an admission of guilt (even if only by association of decendents). Once that guilt has been established, here come the lawsuits. We've already seen individual companies that stepped up to the plate to be the first to offer apologies and who are now having to defend themselves against such lawsuits. Heck, Lloyds of London is being sued for having insured the ships that transported slaves.
The main cause of the gap between the haves and the have nots, is personal responsibility. There will always be those who have more than someone else. However, having enough is easily attainable via being personally responsible and a contributor to society...rather than a pimple on it's butt. The solution is that some families need to change their values, their priorities, and how they raise their children. The rest of society can't do that for them...they must do it themselves. A child who receives more influence from BET videos than from a responsible parent is not going to be fixed by an apology for slavery or reparations. A child who is raised with the belief that having the most "bling" and a Lexus takes precedence over being a respectable member of society, is not going to be helped by anything society may do for them. People think that throwing money at the problem will solve it, and that poverty is the root of the problem. Both are B.S. The NBA is full of multi-millionaire blacks...and yet they still have a disproportionate participation in crime. Yet many years ago, before "bling" became a cultural goal, there were many, many poor black families that had nothing...but they did had their faith, and their values, and their sense of personal responsibility. And their kids went to school and on to college and made something of themselves. Had their culture retained those values, then I believe that when white society finally let go of it's legal bigotry, blacks would have become part of society as a whole without today's problems. Unfortunately, the race-baiters and the afro-centrists preyed on black culture and turned it into a silly caricature of itself. These false leaders promoted the idea within black culture that we see today: "Don't you dare treat me different, but you better treat me special."
This is exactly what is wrong. You are proud to be part of the problem. Possibly one day you can be proud to be part of a solution .
