Slavery......again?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by tawiii, Apr 6, 2007.

  1. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Thank you for addressing the issues. I think I understand your argument, and you certainly have some legitimate concerns. I still think an apology is in order, but I do not think any monetary reparations are in order. The wrongs that were caused by slavery and later Jim Crow laws have been addressed over the years, and are still being addressed, by such means as civil rights laws, the voting rights act, and so forth. According to a story on WRAL this morning, Rep. Dan Blue has this to say:
    I agree with him. I like the idea of working toward more equality out of a sense of investment for the well-being of all Americans.

    I also agree that an apology is in order for the way our government treated Native Americans.

    Peace & Love,
    Pat
     
  2. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Again where do you stop with apologies and who determines who should be apologized to. If their are official government apologies their will be lawyers trying class action suits for the people apologized too.
     
  3. Curious

    Curious Well-Known Member

    Sounds fair to me!
     
  4. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    I can't apologize for anything my ancestors may have done, no one can. It isn't the responsibility of this generation to offer anything on behalf of those past.

    It's time to move on, and just make certain history doesn't repeat itself.

    Everything in this stinking world comes down to 'what do I get out of it?' Truthfully, I'm sick of it.
     
  5. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    I also really dislike the "Attitude" that we OWE this. Not me. My family is from Scotland. We had billy goats and mules as slaves. Ohh wait that may offend some pet owners.
     
  6. Clif

    Clif Guest

    "The declaration which says that God visits the sins of the fathers upon the children is contrary to every principle of moral justice."
    Thomas Paine

    (or, for you more religious leaning)

    "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
    DEU 24:16
     
  7. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member


    :lol:
     
  8. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Only on Tuesdays!!!
     
  9. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    An attempt to connect through oversimplification does not work because the people as a whole do not make all of the decisions nor does the government represent each and every view equally. The government apologizes for the government's actions involving slavery not anyone else's actions or views.
     
  10. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Evidently you needed to say this way earlier in the thread. :shock:
     
  11. tawiii

    tawiii Guest

    If it were legal for you to do that, then sure. As I to you.
     
  12. grysunshine

    grysunshine Well-Known Member

  13. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    The point was more clear in that last post, but see also in this thread #56, 96, 121, 125, and 151.
     
  14. tawiii

    tawiii Guest

    Great pic of your kid gry ;)
     
  15. grysunshine

    grysunshine Well-Known Member

    thanks, we adopted him from this person taking up a whole lane riding their bike in traffic, that's why he already has the harness and helmet, poor kid. :lol:
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2007
  16. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member


    Legality is a non-issue since we were speaking of acknowledgement of wrongdoing. If it were legal or not does not matter in the acknowledgement.
     
  17. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

  18. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    Interesting news out of the UK, Wayne.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2055148,00.html

    Blair blames spate of murders on black culture
    · Political correctness not helping, says PM
    · Community leaders react angrily to comments

    Patrick Wintour and Vikram Dodd
    Thursday April 12, 2007
    The Guardian

    Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.
    One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

    Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".
     
  19. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Obviously Mr Blair needs to consult with the NC legislature. I am sure now that the apology for slavery has unanimously passed in the senate and house in NC our "crime wave" will go down now that they can move on with their lives and be productive citizens
     
  20. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    It appears to be more of a personal belief of Mr Blair than anything else ...

    Mr Blair's remarks are at odds with those of the Home Office minister Lady Scotland, who told the home affairs select committee last month that the disproportionate number of black youths in the criminal justice system was a function of their disproportionate poverty, and not to do with a distinctive black culture.

    <snip>

    Mr Blair is known to believe the tendency for many black boys to be raised in families without a father leads to a lack of appropriate role models.
     

Share This Page