Turtle, that is just terrible, I am so sorry for your child and for you, I know you both must be in a lot of pain. The third grade? They are still just babies! But like I said, a lot of kids are just mean! They remind me of a flock of chickens that will peck the one that is different in some way. Sad to say, but I myself got picked on in elementary school because I didn't have the "right" clothes or whatever. I dread the day it happens to mine, and chances are it will no matter what we do to try to prevent it...............................................:-(
Grace your story about your daughter brought back to memory something I did in 2nd grade. LOL This one girl kept talking to me and the teacher kept telling ME to be quiet. I kept telling her that it wasn't me it was the other girl. So I started getting up and telling the teacher that the girl was talking to me before the teacher called on me again and you know what she told me. I told on her so many times that finally the teacher said well slap her the next time she starts to talk to you. What did I do.... SMACK! I remember the look on that poor girl's face just as plain as day right now. Finger marks and all. Then look of "holy sheet" on the teachers face. The girl stopped talking to me and the teacher had to explain to me that she didn't really mean slap her. :lol: :lol:
Grace, I agree with most of what you said. I, too, am very involved in my children's education. I have been since the day they started school. I have older children who did not have to deal with a lot of the things my two middle school children do now. As a matter of fact, my 33 yr. old says Middle School was the best years of her life. Sadly, my younger two can't say that. There are very few teachers or administrators who don't know who I am and call me by name when I'm in their school, and a vast majority of the kids know me by name as well, or at the very least know whose Mother I am. However this has not prevented my child from being bullied this past year. I don't think it's as bad now as it was the first part of school, but bullying does happen to more kids than the school would like to admit to. I have taught all of my children what my mother taught me. "You'd better not EVER make fun of anyone for any reason and you'd better not ever start anything....but if you're ever physically bullied, then you have my permission to defend yourself." Problem with that is that my son was not physically abused, but rather mentally abused on a daily basis. He was called a "Freak" because he's a smart kid and tries to do the right thing. He was called a freak so many times he finally asked me "Why do I have to be the freak? What did I do wrong?" Obviously nothing, but it's hard for a kid to see and understand that some kids just "get off" calling other people names. I told him it was ignorance on the other kid's part and he was probably just jealous of him. Thankfully, my son did not fight back, but I can see where he might. If he ever does, I think he would be justified. There's only so much anyone can take before they react. Anyhow what concerns me in your post is: Are you saying kids have nails in their jeans at school???? I find that hard to believe and if it is true then that is really scary! They don't even let kids have a plastic knife in school or carry an umbrella on the bus because it could be used as a weapon! NAILS??? :shock:
Grace, I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that the new elementary school being built in the Clayton area (also listed in the bond) will reduce (hopefully eliminate) the trailors at East Clayton.
You got me thinking WRAL.....Protest outside of the school until something is done. Not only for your son but for those who has been bullied or being bully as we speak. I would think that this will make the school pay attention to you. What are they waiting? For a child to get hurt or maybe even killed by another child.
They alllllll need whoopins...Whip them all. Let them know what a whoopin is. Get out of this "Time Out" mind set with these kids. Whoop em
I think that's the problem with most of these kids who act out. I see them walking through my subdivision ALL hours of the night. The parents are no where in site. I do believe it starts at home. Some parents need to step up and stop trying to be their kids friend instead of their parent. Its OK to be the "friend" in certain circumstance, but you need to be the "parent " all the time.
I will gladly post the schools name... Cooper Elementary And I am getting my child out of that school as of next year.(he was not involved in the incident I observed Tuesday, I was sitting there waiting for a meeting and I saw the whole thing) Instead there is a child there who locks themself in the bathroom and threatens to kill himself, he also verbally and physically assaulted the teacher at 3pm one afternoon and returned to class at 8am the next morning. First graders starting fires in the bathrooms too. I could go on and on. I am still waiting for a return call from Dr Croom, I have left several different messages through out the year and never seem to get a call back from him.
GOOD LUCK on the return call. I 'm still waiting for an 8 month ago phone call. I don't think they really care. It's all politics!!
The High school where my son was attacked is Clayton High. He was picked up about 4 ft off the ground and throwed back on to the concert floor head frist. He then blacked out and had a siezer (SP). As all that was going on the boy the sat on top of him and beat he face. When I got to the school the EMS was there (my son works with them). He didn't know who they were and couldn't move anything on his right side. I bent down next to him and took his hand. When I said mom is here, he looked at me then back to one of the EMS guys, and said is that really my mom? All this happened because there are NO teachers in the lockerroom!!
Someone said, Walloon I think, that they are waiting for a call from Croom. GOOD LUCK w/ that is all I've got to say. He's lied to us several times. One time, I took his lie straight to the Dept. of Public Instruction w/ a registered letter that named names and everything that JCPS had done in violation of IEP laws and several other things. That was the ONLY time I ever got a response out of him but no appology to this day for all he's done. In this county, they tend to move the special ed classes around. This is one of my sons' 6th schools and he's in 5th grade. Insanity! Of course that doesn't compare to the school forgetting one of the special ed students on the school bus during a field trip. I could go on and on about what has transpired. We have fought and fought for the rights of our children to have a free and appropriate education. I understand there will be fights in school, I get that. Kids will be kids. However, some of this stuff is going to far. My son HATES the birth country he is from now and his heritage b/c of all the dumb name calling going on. They also give him a very rought time regarding adoption. I've thought of some clever comebacks for some of those. And I don't think my daughter should have to endure being called retarded everyday at Cleveland Middle and reprimanded in class by other students if she dare ask a question in computer class. And yes, I've brought this to their attention several times. I want to know how other parents deal w/ the hurt their kids feel everyday. Most of my kids used to love going to school. Now, they hate it. One of my sons was receiving A's and B's most of the year until the bullying started. Then, dropped to D's and F's. Now, it's going back up again but if people say bullying doesn't affect academic performance, then tehy are wrong. Has anyone thought of going as a group of concerned parents to the School Board and seeing what happens? Or better yet, to central office? I'd be more than willing to attend one of these meetings w/ other parents. They tend not to listen to you one on one but as a group, people tend to listen more. I feel for other parents going through the same struggles. We have taught our kids to fight back. And all the bullying instances, he has not said anything. He has been picked on due to ethnicity. He finally let one of the kids have it and my son did get in trouble for it. I understand that to an extent. But if you have listened to idiots for months torment you and you finally let them have it, I hold nothing against my son. He turned the other cheek for way too long. And I do agree w/ the one poster who said it starts at home w/ some of the behavior of the kids that are picking on other kids. One of the kids' that gave my son a hard time, lives right next door. We know he's stolen out of our yard before, yet unless you ahve "proof", you can't touch them. He hangs around w/ older children, out all hours of the night. Where are the parents of this elementary school child? He's threatened to shoot some of my kids and now they're terrified at times to go outside. I told them it was probably a b-b gun. We've talked and I guess next time we should call the police. Dont' know if that would help or not is the sad part. Since he doesn't live w/ his parents, not much they can do. Dont' know the rules. If he makes a threat, can I call the police? Does anyone know the answer to that. Sorry if I got off topic. Just this thread hits close to home about violence in school and bullies. Take care, worried parent.
All of this makes me wonder if my son's broken arm was really an accident. He said he tripped on 'something' when walking down the hall, but he doesn't remember what, and he had to have been doing more than 'just walking' if he fell hard enough to break his arm, at least I would think so, but I'm no expert.
Abdulina, by chance do you live in South Plantation? My neighbor and I called the Jo. Co. Sheriff when a group of boys (looked about age 11) started threatening to shoot our children. The boys were walking on OUR property and our children were playing together on the swing set. The boys threatened children aged 3, 5, and 7! Call the sheriff, even though they will only talk to the boys and parents the first time. If it happens again, it goes through juvenile court for communicating threats (according to the deputy who responded to us).
There are to many parents afraid to tell their kids no these days. I will tell your kids no just call me.
All Children First, We don't live in South Plantation but near by. We live in the south hills area. 2 sherriffs live in our neighborhood. Interesting that this is happening in quite a few places though and w/ such young children.
I was showing my high school aged children my post and some of the responses. They felt mentioning their school’s name is very important. As I mentioned before, I did want to leave that out so we could see how wide spread the problem is. Well, my experiences are with WJHS. The school keeps all this very quiet and unless your child is personally involved, the information will not be released. Some of the information I shared is personal experience; other information was gotten from several different students who witnessed these things. Hoping to be able to gather some facts and/or stats to bring forward to the administration, to help prove the need for change, is why I tried this forum. This is a first for me and I truly appreciate everyone patience. That being said….. I agree with Grace Slick. It is time to act. As a group, (I believe this is the only way we will truly be heard and taken seriously) we could go into the schools and meet with the principals. Let them hear our initial request and concerns. We need to insist on supervision in the locker rooms at all times. As well, I believe it is critical to have supervision all over the parking lots as students are arriving in the morning and heading for home in the afternoon. There seems to be plenty of supervision right up front, where parents are dropping off their students. I also strongly believe that there should me more security throughout the entire school, but none elsewhere in the lots. If this doesn’t get results, I agree that protests are a good start. Contacting WRAL as well, if necessary. At WJHS, the students have ZERO time to unwind, or take a short break. They barely have time to buy and eat their lunch and only have minutes to get to and from class. Their day is so long, they need a supervised break, in my opinion. The law requires working folks to have a 15-minute break for each 4 hours worked. Why are children expected to go through a very long and difficult day without the same consideration? Perhaps that would help reduce some of the tension. The trouble is, as I had suspected, it is occurring at many different schools. And yes, a lot of this behavior is a result of upbringing. But we still need to face the problem and protect our children; so that they can get the education they are entitled to. As has been mentioned on several posts, this does affect the students learning and grades, not to mention self confidence and more. Where do we start? I welcome any and all suggestions. If you are interested in visiting a couple of schools with these concerns, please let me know. Feel free to pm me as well. The stronger the front in presenting these concerns, the more likely that we will see fast results.
Back Joanne 110% :shock: I AM A CONCERNED PARENT, I HAVE READ THIS FORUM, INDEPTHLY! I AGREE WITH JOANNE AND AM WILLING TO BACK HER 110%. MY CHILDREN ARE NOT OF H.S AGE YET BUT YOU CAN NOT PUT A TIMELINE WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR CHILDREN AND VIOLENCE !!!! I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE AS PARENTS HAVE TO TAKE A STAND. TOO MANY INCIDENTS HAVE BEEN SWEPT UNDER THE RUG BY OUR OFFICALS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. IT IS TIME WE CLEAN HOUSE!!!!!! AS A TEEN IN H.S I WAS SEXUALLY HARASSED BY AN EDUCATER MY SCHOOL AND PRINCIPLES BACKED ME AND MY PARENTS 100%. WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE DAYS ???? WE MAY ALL THINK OUR CHILDREN ARE BEAUTIFUL,SMART,HAPPY,AND IDEPENDENT. I ASSURE YOU THAT CONFIDENCE IS STARTING TO DWINDLE, AND I FOR ONE AM NO GOING TO JUST BE ONE THAT JUST WRITES ON FORUMS. WE NEED TO STAND UP AS PARENTS AND DO WHAT WE DO BEST PROTECT OUR CHILDREN !!!!!!! I KNOW WHEN THEY WERE LITTLE AND THEY SCRAPPED A KNEE WE WERE RIGHT THERE HELPING THEM UP. NOW AS OUR CHILDREN ARE GETTING OLDER I REGRET TO SAY ALOT OF US HAVE NEGLECTED ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
Maybe this is a choice to consider. My neice went through all that in Pitt County a couple of years ago and switched to one of these schools there. She ended up graduating 6 months ahead of her class. http://www.johnston.k12.nc.us/education/school/school.php?sectionid=657
I have 2 middle schoolers and a 2nd grader. I hear alot of stuff and I know that my kids are not angels by a long shot. But they do know that they really don't want to get into trouble. You see, if they did, their father would PLANT them. He believes giving a good butt whoopin' when it is due and does not hold back. He told them that if we ever got a call that they were i trouble or arrested that they may want to consider making arrangements to stay elsewhere or at the police station because they would fare better there.... My oldest asked me one night what would I do if he ever got in trouble for violence. We were talking about all this junk going on in schools. I told him that if I found out he did something or was doing something or PLANNING on doing something (and I would find out cuase I'm nosey...LOL) I would call the police my dang self and have them come out and get him. AND I would escort them to his room for formal introductions. He looked at me like I was nuts. I said that if you are stupid enough to go and do something to deserve to go to jail or juvenile hall or whatever, you're doggone right I'm gonna rat you out. And I WILL NOT go and visit you either. I am like my sister-in-law. Ain't no way I'm going to see my young'un in jail. I will still love you and care about you and take care of you the best I could. We're trying to be sure we raise our kids to do better than all that junk. And we are doing a pretty good job I hope. Of course I know that kids do stuff we don't know about. Every kid "trys" themselves. In our house you get 2 nights of TV OR video games. The 2 nights WE gave them was Friday and Saturday. LOLOL Other nights it's read or play a board game. Now since the weather is nicer, your tail needs to be outside till dark. And we have CHORE night too. I'm so excited cause my 13 yr old son can do laundry SOOOOOOO good... They are responsible for putting their own stuff up too. Computer is in the living room and and has parental blocks as well as me a dad LOOMING over them, what little time they are allowed on it. Phone calls are 10 minutes long and NONE after 8:30 pm. Now they do get to do alot of stuff and are involved in sports and all that. Gas is KILLING me with that. We don't run a boot camp. And they do act up at times. They're kids, and kids do that. We do the best we can and pray for the best!!!!
