Ummm, that wasnt nice. I dont hardly get on anymore. I still love ya:lol: I really dont understand your comment though. Maybe you can clarify?
Wasn't there a time when people were saying WillSpanker was really you... back when you weren't getting on here as T4T anymore? At any rate, I was just kidding around with ya.
Clif, I know you just LOVE playing the devil's advocate, he is MARRIED and extracurricular sex is still wrong whether his wife knows about it and approves or not. If thinking that marriage means staying faithful to your spouse for better or for worse, and excluding all others makes me small minded, then so be it.
Oh, I dont know. I probably really wasnt on here. Now there is an idea. Its cool. I know you are playin around, I think. I am not will spankher or however you spell it. I liked the chris henson thing.....
Let the guy cheat. Who gives a rats butt? The part I didn't like was the reference to "married women" would be great. That's where he'd cross the line with a smith & westin toting hubby!
But that is your belief. It may not be the belief that he and his wife follow. If they believe that it's ok then it's not WRONG in their eyes. Doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or feels or believes is right or wrong. Craig
The married women part is what prompted me to post originally that perhaps him and his wife were of the swinging orientation and that they might be looking for like minded people. Course god forbid you have a dissenting opinion or offer up another option about why someone posted a personal ad, not to mention the people who find such things. Why are they searching the personals? Craig
Not defending this guy, but to critisize without knowing the circumstances is probably a mistake. I know this may be an extreme case, but let me tell you about a guy I worked with a long time ago: This guy was a succesful businessman with two grown children. He and his wife were married for almost 25 years when she had a devastating stroke that left her body pretty much useless. The doctors said that mentally she was okay, but that her body had become a prison for her. She was of course conscience and all, but she could barely speak and was unable to walk. This guy had cared for his wife's every need (just think about that) for five years and in all that time I never ever heard him complain or say a cross word about the situation. I spoke with his son once and he told me that his dad's attitude was "This is what the Lord has set before me" and that he had to deal with it. Just so you know, to my knowledge the man NEVER cheated and I never even saw him look twice at another woman. When I knew him his wife had been in this condition for five years. Sooooo, what would you do? This guy obviously loved his wife and would do anything for her, but he's still a human with the same sexual needs and desires that we all have. I gotta tell ya, I wouldn't have blamed the guy or thought bad about him if he had an "NSA" relationship. I guess I'm just saying that we really shouldn't judge. That's God's job.
Apparently there must be different versisons of the marriage vows that leave out the "forsaking all others" part. Or maybe there is a special ceremony where you can "take back" that part and go out and have yourself a good ole time. Really, has anyone gotten married and that part was left out? I am sincerley curious, since apparently hubby and I are missing out on the fun! :mrgreen:
It is God's job, but most marriages take place in a church and you take those vows before God. The man you are speaking of is living up to his vows, forsaking all others and in sickness and in health. That's what marriage is about, you stick out the bad times, not bail as soon as things get hard. He sounds like an honorable man!
Okay, but seriously: Considering his circumstances, would you have wanted him tossed into the firey pit? It's easy to say that his cheating would have been wrong, but to acutally live life that way for five solid years? 1825 days without relations? If you think you could actually pull that off then I would guess that you are either a Jewish carpenter from Israel or a liar! P.S. I'd been gettin' twitchy after 1825 hours! :lol:
:lol: I'm a woman so it is possible, LOL! You men, I don't know..............................:lol: :lol: Seriously, I understand the problem, I do, BUT, I guess that's why God gave you hands if you catch my drift. I don't think anyone has ever died from not having sex. You might wish you had, but you won't There are many people who live with this problem every day and manage to stay faithful to their spouses.
I've heard tell about people like that. Of course, being the devastatingly handsome brute that I am I have no personal experience with such an affliction!
So if he IS in a relationship with his wife that is so "open", then why all the secrecy and not posting a picture outright????? I mean, after all, who cares, right??? At least that is the general concensus here. For some anyway. Not all. It is very plain to see the guy wants a secret affair. Quit reading into stuff and making excuses and take it as it is. The guy is a DOG..... Open relationship my ***................
I wasn't born and raised or married in JoCo smart !@# ! :lol: That's why I'm asking! Like I said, apparently DH and I missing out on all the fun! :roll: Maybe we can renew our vows under a different set of rules? Whatcha think? 16 years is a long time to live with the same vows.........................