it's official; Walmart to be at I-40/42

Anyone know if the site plan also includes Murphy Gas? Not sure if the drainage and site info meets permitting for fuel tanks.

 

I dont have a problem with wal mart coming to cleveland. I like it. it will be so convenient. I dont want the crime or traffic that comes with that though.

Oh well, probably not a thing anyone can do about it. That would be my guess. I am just glad that I dont live to close to that intersection any more.

I am sure it is moving this way though. (mcgee's)

 

Convenience is a dirty word, in my opinion, and will eventually be the death of us.

Convenience makes society fat, lazy, irresponsible and unappreciative.

Convenience is also a large cause of pollution and, funny enough, waste.

 

Planning Board?

Anybody going to the planning board meeting tomorrow? I think I might go and ask a few questions such as:
IF NC 42 between Cleveland Road and Bratton (Lowes) is already a disaster, do you think it is responsible to add 12-15000 cars per day to that strech of road, with out making a significant improvements? (I don't consider adding a few hundred feet of pavement significant)
Does it make sense to add a Wal-mart, when there are already 4 within a 30 minute drive from the location they are proposing (Garner, F-V, Smithfield, and Clayton)?
If you aren't going to make Wal-mart improve the roads any further than a small widening project, can you at least get them to put some money in a county road fund, so that in 5 years when people realized how bad it would get, that there would be some money to fix it?

 

If they put in the x shaped exit ramp like at I 40 and Steets of Southpoint, or I 540 & Six Forks rd, it would eliminate 1 stop light at each side of the current exit. The paper a while back said that it would cost $32 million to do that. Then they do need to make 42 2 lanes each way with a center turn lane from Lowes to the new US 70 bypass that is being built (let say $50 million). Then they need to build a new exit at Cornwallis (the overpass south of Westview), how about another $35 million. Then not allow development at that exit. Oh and they also need to Make I 40 3 lanes each way from exit 306 to the new US 70 bypass (5 miles so $100 million).

That is $217 million to get our exit in decent running order, and 3-4 years. Somebody call Easly and get that Transporation money he moved to balance the budget back. Road work is crazy expensive, adn I'm in contruction.

 

Oh, and why were talking about the roads, I'd like to ask everyone that drives down Cornwallis Rd. from direction of HWY 42 going towards White Oak Crossing to please go the speed limit. There are times when pulling out of peoples driveways or any of the subdivisions on that rd. is extremely dangerous because of all the people who think their on I40, the speed limit is only 45 mph on that road. Please slow down and go the speed limit.
Thanks everyone.

 

What would be more responsible is for the developers not to be allowed to place homes on roads like that. Subdivisions should be developed this way for two reasons:

-allows traffic to flow more freely

-creates a small buffer between the subdivision and the thoroughfare

 

Harvey,
Allow me to explain to you and others that are not originally from this area. This road, not too many years ago was a dirt road, farming community. Many of the homes on this road have been there for years, take for example my in-laws home has been there for over 60 years. Now, my home is not right on the road but a good 200 yards or so off of the road. This road was here way before you or anyone else decided they wanted to build and buy homes in the area. The request was for people to slow down and not speed for the safety of others. The road work that's being done at this time is to get the road up to state regulations for the hwy 70 bypass. The front of my driveway has been plowed up for this, which makes it very difficult to pull out with any type of speed. If people traveling this road would just obey the speed limit things would be just great, but the cars traveling down this road have a tendency to go way over the speed limit, speeds at 60mph are common. "Reasonable" would be to obey the speed limit. This is why you usually see Wake County Deputy or HP hiding out at the Good Samaritan Church. Nothing wrong with the homes/driveways on this road, what's wrong is people who speed like their on I40 down this road. The blame is on those that speed, not the homeowners/builders.

 

While I may not be from here, I have lived here for 20 years and that qualifies me to gripe about this. I have no problem with individual homes on single parcels of land that have been there since dirt was invented. My problem is with subdivisions and the density of homes they bring. At least 10 homes per subdivision seem to front the main road, which is irresponsible planning in my opinion.

I didn't mention speeding at all. Speeding has nothing to do with traffic jams. Too many cars on the road and too many access points / homes is what brings traffic jams and congestion.

 

Wal-Mart

Anyone planning on attending the Planning Board Meeting tonight?

 

Harvy,
And my quote had nothing to do with traffic jams (which is rare on this road), therefore you need not have responded to it. Facts remain that the people traveling that road each day are going way too fast for the road, be it lined with a forest of trees or road front homes, this has always been the case with this country road, even before all of the development etc.. Once again, my polite request was for people to please slow down on that road (hence the word "please"), drive the speed limit etc.. Speeding on secondary roads seems to be what most drivers do (no stoplights and so on), with or without the subdivisions and road front homes. If your one of the drivers that travels that road every morn and afternoon, beware of the Deputy that hides out at the county lines. Now that we've gotten off of the original topic, have a great day and drive safely.

 

I could agree with you on that one.

We ALL use things that are way to convenient.

Oh well, life must go on. Things re4volve and you just stay with the flow.


It would be cool if it was back in the day when things were simpler. There were many good times. :neutral:

 

You mean back in the day when disease was a quick death sentence, Influenza, polio, smallpox, measles, mumps...less sanitation and overwatch of the food and water supply? Crude medical procedures, tesing, and bad outcomes? Family farms where the kids were working in the fields as soon as they could stand? Little formal education?

Not sure that I would want to go back there. Sure, in my youth and naivete, it was fun. The adults dealing with it then..well they had a different perspective.

My Granny celebrated her 101st birthday yesterday. She almost died at age 4 because of a small cut on her foot. Had to get a wagon hitched to go to the Doctor in New Bern from Grantsboro. The infection almost killed her. Her oral history is such that she remembers the devasation of the Depression, Both World Wars, and every armed conflict since.

Just wanting to share a different perspective.

 

While convenience and technological advances often go hand in hand, many modern conveniences are completely unecessary and contribute to sloth. I believe it was Henry David Thoreau who wrote something about the only two modern advancements he could not live without were modern medicine and indoor plumbing...wait, maybe it was Emerson?

Don't mistake convenience for improvements on necessity...I said that.

 

Wal-Mart approved by Planning Board

Despite the efforts of several speakers, the planning board approved the Wal-Mart on NC 42. Where was everybody? Too concerned about the tangent that this thread has become?

 

i didn't go because honestly i didn't feel strong enough one way or the other to support either cause - just my honest opinion. i am sorry for you though that the vote did not go the way you wished. i am, assuming from my last dealing with the board, that this was just for the recommendation to the Commissioners? If so, then there will be another opportunity for those who feel strongly one way or the other to have a chance to speak.

 

You went a little to far back.

 

Was their any question it would be approved. Their could have been 50,000 residents their against it and they would have approved it.

 

I was teaching last night, that's why I originally asked who was going. I couldn't make it.

What were the concerns of the "several people"?

Ya'll, we need to be more organized up here. This is gonna continue to happen until we get our heads out of our...and stand tall.


Frogger

 

The point that I and another gentleman tried to make was the lack of noticable improvements to the road system. The only proposed improvements at this point is widening 42 for a few hundred feet, and putting in a traffic signal. A Wal-Mart typically attracts 17-20 thousand cars a day. Even if only half of them come down 42 from the east, can you imagine adding another 10,000 cars to that strectch of 42 from Lowes to cornwallis road? It already backs up to lowes in the afternoons sometimes. And if half come from the other way, that's 10,000 cars going though the 40/42 bridge, and those dysfunctional stop-lights. I think they should have held Wal Mart more responsible for the impact it will make.