Lowering flag to half-staff to honor fallen troops

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by KDsGrandma, May 16, 2007.

  1. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    The House has passed a bill that would allow governors to order federal facilities in their state to lower the flag to half staff to honor fallen troops, the Army Times reports.

    The bill passed the House 408-4, and now goes to the Senate.
     
  2. ws

    ws Well-Known Member

    as much as i am in support for our troops i do not think this is right.
     
  3. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    I can't remember the last time I saw a flag at full mast in Michigan, everytime I am there, which is all to frequently, I see this unfortunate sight.
     
  4. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    :confused:
     
  5. Hatteras6

    Hatteras6 Well-Known Member

    KD,

    Without reservation, I support our military.

    In this case, I object to having this authority delegated, because there would seem to be no rhyme nor reason as to how an individual governor could decide. I would hate for the lowering of flags to half staff to become any more politicized than it is now. Suppose the governor of one state decided to lower it for his pet's funeral. What then? I agree that this is unlikely, and that the public outcry would be resounding. Moral suasion, however, neither prevents nor precludes inapproriate actions by those who lead.

    Count me as obstinate about the US flag placed at half staff for those whose service is in the military. I do not feel that as tragic as the VT killings were, that flags should have been lowered, as eventually, the flags will remain at half staff for any or no reason at all.

    In my mind, I hope and pray for the day when I will no longer have to see a flag at half staff, becasue I'll know that our military people are no longer in harm's way, making the ultimate sacrifice for this nation.
     
  6. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    The bill does not say governors can order flags at half staff for any reason, it says to honor fallen troops.
     
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  7. Hatteras6

    Hatteras6 Well-Known Member

    I stand corrected, and apologize for hip shooting before I completed my boresighting.

    Respectfully,

    Carl
     
  8. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    I think it is the least that can be done to show any small amount of respect for these men and women who gave their lives for us.
     
  9. ws

    ws Well-Known Member

    i agree that something should be done for fallen troops. i just dont think a flag at half staff is the answer. remember, these troops voluntarily signed up. now if a dignitary or someone like that was killed then yes, aka ronald reagan.
     
  10. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    yes they signed up because they are brave people .If they did not sign up who would fight for our country?I think anything that shows that they are respected is a good idea .
     
  11. ws

    ws Well-Known Member

    i 100% agree

    draft

    i 100% agree
     
  12. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    You think drafting would be better?
     
  13. Hatteras6

    Hatteras6 Well-Known Member

    WS,
    if not for them, who will defend the country? Many on this board have stood our watches. I interpret your remark as smug and insulting to those who have served and those who continue to serve.
     
  14. BobF

    BobF Well-Known Member

    Warning: Thread Drift!

    How about a 3.5% pay increase. I'm for it.

    I would even give up a tax cut to pay for it.

    Certain other people don't agree.

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/05/military_payhike_whitehouse_070516/

    Troops don’t need bigger pay raises, White House budget officials said Wednesday in a statement of administration policy laying out objections to the House version of the 2008 defense authorization bill.

    The Bush administration had asked for a 3 percent military raise for Jan. 1, 2008, enough to match last year’s average pay increase in the private sector. The House Armed Services Committee recommends a 3.5 percent pay increase for 2008, and increases in 2009 through 2012 that also are 0.5 percentage point greater than private-sector pay raises.

    Bush budget officials said the administration “strongly opposes” both the 3.5 percent raise for 2008 and the follow-on increases, calling extra pay increases “unnecessary.”

    There ya go. For all the Administration talk about "supporting the troops", those brave people aren't worth a 3.5% pay increase.

    If I were a Congressional Democrat, I would pass the 3.5% pay increase through congress as a stand-alone bill, and dare Bush to veto it. :twisted:

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  15. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    I am a registered republican and I am thinking of switching.
     
  16. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    We Democrats welcome recovering Republicans. In fact, the Democratic Women of Johnston County have a meeting tonight, want to go with me? ;)
     
  17. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    so nice of you to ask but I have plans.Tonight I am going out with someone ,first date he might not like a womens meeting for the first date lol.
     
  18. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Well, we are having a potluck, he would be welcome to join us too! :lol:

    Enjoy your evening. :-D
     
  19. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    thankyou ya know it might show what hes made of lol j/k I could not make him that uncomfortable hes a little shy and took his time asking me out he said I was intimidating so taking him to a womens meeting would scare him off. so tempting I love to watch a manover 6ft be nervous thats entertainment hehehe
     
  20. froggerplus

    froggerplus Well-Known Member

    Teaching dance tonite, but give me forewarning next meeting ;) ;) .


    Frogger
     

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