Next Teen Night is Tonight.

You are so right on the money with this.

There is a book out that I highly recommed. Its called "Boundaries When to say YES When to say NO: by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend. They even have one called "Boundaries with Kids".

 

Whhooo hoooo

You said it girlfriend...LOL

I have been meaning to get that book "boundaries with kids" and when to say yes and no.

 

Like many of the "role models" of the day... Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Nicole Richie, Jessica Simpson, to name a few.

 

I think all women need to ban together and boycott all films, music, tv ,shows or tv stations that have anything to do with these so called role models .We need to write to movie producers or whomever and let them know we are not seeing their movies watching there shows buying any rags (gossip mag.) or anything with them in or on it.Then I would personaly like to send paris's mother a letter asking her if they are so rich why won't she buy her daughter a new nose because hers looks like Michael Jackson's.

 

I actually buy movies from Feature Films for Families. They are great movies that actually have "meaning" to them.

www.familyfilms.com

 

Yes I do want to forget...

After seeing the pictures taken at the last dance - it will be the last place that you will see my child at.

I guess "grinding" is a Christian thing?

 

GRIND YOUR HIPS FOR JEEBUS!

 

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So, how was the club? :?

I must admit, I take high offense to a youngin trying to put us older parents in our place. I have a close friend who's in the 20's. This person is highly intelligent, logical, and level-headed. However, there are just some things you don't 'get' until you've had more life experience...and that comes with a-g-e.

I was like you, young mom, when I was 24. I can hear myself in your posts. Like my friend, it frustrates me to hear the high-and-mighty and holier-than-tho in your "voice". Cleo and I may have our differences, but I back her on this. Come back in 10 years and let me know how you view things.

My child is not sheltered and I will not keep her from experiencing life. I will, however, be her parent in her formative years. We have plenty of times to become friends after she survives that period in her life.


Frogger

 

I have spent some time reading over many of the post regarding this topic and am amazed with some of the comments. If I could just give some advice to those of you who believe in the "let them experience life" and "too much restriction only makes them become liars etc." and "their going to do it anyway so why not let them do it up front rather than behind my back" etc., you guys are so in for some trouble ahead. What the kids are doing at this club is role playing the adult world. What part of this is acceptable? By allowing your kids to "experience life" in this manner your creating failure, hardship and a trip down a road of no return. When did letting them experience life mean it was okay to break the law by drinking alcohol, take drugs and party/staying out all night, because this is what the kids are doing. At 14 your son or daughter does not have the right to make those types of decision, who's the parent in this picture. The ones of you who are spouting this crap are in for a very hard road with your kids and in my opinion that's just a cop out on taking responsibility as a parent. Those of us that have already been down this road with our teenagers will tell you that it's very hard to stand your ground and not cave in to their wants, but as their parents you have to determine what is best for them. There is a very fine line to balance but well worth the end results. Believe me, I know how easy it is to just say yes, but I say no because it's in the BEST INTEREST for my kid and that's what really matters. For those of you yet to have your kids or those of you who's kids are teenagers in the near future, please consider carefully what we as experienced parents are trying to say to you. Limitations, boundaries, talking, discussions, many tears, many laughs and a lot of love will get you and your kid through these tough times. Rules applied with much love is like honey to a bumblebee. I wish you future teenage parents all the luck in the world. F.Y.I, some of these post are being made by the teenagers themselves, they've caught on to this discussion board.

 

Well said frogger!

 

Just remember one day these folks may have to change our diapers! 8)

 

Hahahaha

 

I take high offense to the "older parents" trying to put younger parents in our place with their high and mighty opinions. In the end, thats all it is. Opinions. I may not have reached the age of 30-40 yet, but I can almost bet that I have more experience than anyone would believe. Being young, I can honestly say that I was raised in a household where I was allowed to do basically what i wanted as long as drugs, drinking, and trouble with the law didn't factor in, and as long as my mom knew what i was doing. Me and my mom are good friends now and BY GOD, i managed to graduate high school, get scholarships, go to college, have a child, finish a degree, buy a house and am in the process of finished another degree. I worked for everything I have and plan on instilling a high work ethic in my son. I will not "punish" him by not knowing what goes on in the world today. I'm not trying to be a best friend, but I'm also not trying to play Hitler on him either. I do not condone drugs, drinking, or breaking the law,however, IF he's going to drink, I'd much rather him do it in the presence of me and his father than I had out in a random car with friends. Like I stated before, when my son feels comfortable talking to me about whats going on in his life, and your children are lying to you about whats going on in their life, then talk to me. Until then, unless you know whats gone on in MY life, and the experiences I'VE been thru, please don't use any condescending tones or look down on me for being young and my parenting techniques.
K

 

Ya know... I don't know if this has been mentioned and even still it needs to be repeated.

These are KIDS at this club... KIDS!! They have the REST OF THEIR LIVES to experience what ever life may hold for them. Let them be kids NOT ADULTS. And yes like Openminded said they are role playing the adult world. There is nothing "teenage" in those pictures. And from the likes of those pictures they are mimicking the porn section of the adult world.

And to the ignorant "parents" on here that believe giving your child your trust enables them to return that honesty and trust 100%... well if you believe that my friend, then screw burying your head in the sand, you have just buried your whole body.

And this folks is from a parent who just has a toddler and an infant, and still remembers the lies I told my parents...the parents who gave me their trust.

Wake up!

 

You'd better check out this past Sunday's N&O before you say that, a woman is going to JAIL for 27 months for contributing to the delinquency of a minor for providing alcohol for her son's party.

And FYI, I only have an 8 year old, but I think I will take the advice of some who have been down this road over someone who is still in their mid 20's. I'm in my thirties and believe me, I do NOT know everything about being a parent. I used to say I wouldn't do this or that, or I would do things this way rather than what people were trying to tell me. Things DO change as you get older, it's just a fact of life. I thought I knew everything in my 20's too. I was wrong.

 

cmdknw06
You seem to be very angry. If indeed you were given the open policy type of upbringing and have turned out to be a good, responsible person, good for you, but you my dear are in the minority. You have yet to reach 30 and feel you know so much, so did I at 25 yrs. of age. As the years go by and I grow older, wisdom is gained. I still look for advice from my elders with much respect, maybe not totally in complete agreement with them but they make me stop and think. It's a fact that those of us that are older than you have more experience, we're not trying to be critical of your way of raising your child, just asking that you listen to our advice and to let you know that we're here for any questions you might have. You will make many mistakes in parenting, as we all have done ourselves. We're not claiming to be perfect parents, just more experienced. Your wrong in thinking that it's okay to let your underage CHILD drink alcohol in the home. What are you teaching them, responsible drinking, thinking he won't become an alcoholic if he starts at a young age, he'll learn control? So, you'll allow underage drinking for his friends as well (illegal and can result in major law suit from other parents and possible jail time for you and hubby), because he's not going to want to drink with just you and dad (not cool). Remember that we've already walked in your shoes, you've yet to walk in ours. Good luck with your type of parenting, may have worked for you but your son is not you.

 

I'm angry b/c of the simple fact that when respect is given it is returned. I have not been given respect. I did not say I would allow my son and all his friends to drink in our home. I was allowed a taste, so I didn't experiment in other ways. I was given trust and respect from my parents, and i never felt the need to lie to them constantly. I don't need HELP parenting my child. If i make mistakes, FINE. But if i felt I wasn't capable of raising a child, I wouldn't have had one. If i have questions, I can ask my mom and dad. I'm just saying I don't see anything THAT wrong with the club. They are all going out, having fun, dancing and the worst thing I saw in the pictures was the girl drinking SODA! The way they were dancing is the way people today dance. It's the way people were dancing when I was in MIDDLE school and went to middle school dances. They're not out breaking laws, killing people or anything else. To read where the "older, wiser parents" on here are saying they'll just end up pregnant...umm, yeah, they will with the parents attitude. Just because you dance like that doesn't mean you will allow 12 guys to run a gang bang on them in the parking lot. These kids are trying to have fun...nothing else. If people stop the teen nights, then what?? they're forced to find their own fun...which leads to trouble. Guess my point is, I have no problem with the club. I agree that the ages should be 15/16-17 ONLY. But other than that, I have no problems.
K

 

What was Kaci's saying? "You can't fix it!" :roll: Time will tell.

 

Can I ask you something? Are you married? Didn't you end up pregnant, living with a boyfriend, or am I wrong?