I'm Tired: A Soldiers View From The Front

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Aglassnut, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. Clif

    Clif Guest

    That's a good question. You expect me to believe that there were 380 people who happened to have voted absentee and then died before the election? That's an odd coincidence, don't you think?

    What I find amusing is that, when a Republican brings up an accusation of voter fraud, it's pretty much summarily dismissed as "partisan politics". On the other hand, when a democrat makes the accusation it becomes proof of a stolen election.
     
  2. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member

    If you want to cause real panic, let a Republican suggest that a voter show photo ID when they vote. Then for the most part, all we hear is "voter suppresion".
     
  3. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Well are we done talking about our soldiers??? and their point of views?
     
  4. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    Did anyone see the story they did on CBS news the other night about the 82nd Airborne and the orphanage? I CRIED during that story. They found all these neglected children, they were apparently developmentally delayed, only one could speak, mostly naked, TIED to their cribs, half starved, it was absolutely heartbreaking. Those soldiers did everything they could to help those poor children.
     
  5. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I would imagine it comes from "going off half-cocked" so to speak. Note there has now been a different statement presented:

    State Auditor Les Merritt backed away Tuesday from the early findings of a review of North Carolina's voter rolls, telling lawmakers his office might find no irregularities at all."We'll eventually get to a correct, final report," Merritt said, "and that final report, it could very well say there isn't anything here, that everything's fine, we're doing a super job.
     
  6. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    So is it incompetence, or attempted voter suppression? (There's that word!) Or both? It looks like Less Merit should have taken a crash course in election law, maybe he could have avoided embarrassing himself like this.
     
  7. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    The problem is the "rampant election abuses" may not actually be there at all as the auditor now admits. The speaking BEFORE any results are confirmed and in an apparent partisan manner (unless he actually is ignorant of the laws) seems to be the problem.
     
  8. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    You can always count on soldiers to do everything they can to help the littlest victims. Hearts of gold. Makes me proud.
     
  9. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    How many people would you expect to cast early or absentee ballots and then die before the election? It seems there are several deaths per day and it is not unexpected that someone with health issues might want to vote early.

    No, it is dismissed when the facts show it to be a questionable position as supprted by even the Auditor's later admissions.

    No, only when the facts support that case.
     
  10. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Why rush to change the voting laws if the initial findings show a possible 25,000 illegal votes? Partisan politics are in play and yet the logical thing would be to wait until the audit was done before voting. Once again the Senate is scheduled to take up a vote today.
     
  11. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Hogwash! Either way the Democrats are unfairly abusing this man. Remember the swiftboat deal? Democrats do not like to be held accountable to the same standards they hold conservatives too! The initial findings of an audit are that there may
    have been 25,000+ illegellay cast ballots. Why not wait until the audit is complete before deciding to change the rules?
     
  12. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Mainly because the "possible illegal votes" are the result of an incomplete review. There was no question until the auditor jumped to an unsupprted conclusion.

    Would that have included cooperation by the Auditor's which could have improved the speed of the accurate report?

    How long would they have had to delay? If it cannot be completed in time to proceed the Senate is acting in a logical manner.
     
  13. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Hogwash? The man ADMITTED there may not be any problems due to the lack of completeness of his information. That is information from his own lips on his failing, which must be considered to be accurate given the situation. How is he not being held to the same standards? How long until he does have the correct information?
     
  14. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    What part of initial findings do you not understand. He never said the audit was complete. Still no reason to call him incompetent and stupid!
     
  15. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Can we just change the name of the thread to the Pirate - KD - Wayne show?
     
  16. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    There is when he uses the incomplete data in an irresponsible manner. In his capacity he should have taken the early/absentee voting prior to death into consideration. I would imagine the invalid DL information would include a considerable number of transposition errors as well, given this significant error and his later statements after the explanations.
     
  17. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    Your welcome to join. Your thoughts are always enjoyable.:mrgreen:
     
  18. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    No, I don't think that's necessarily an odd coincidence at all. A certain number of people do die every month, you know, and some of them may very well pass on between the time they cast their vote and the date of the election. What period of time does the report cover, what was the total number of ballots cast in that period of time? That number may not be at all out of line.
     
  19. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    It was an initial audit finding? We would know actual numbers if they let him find the audit.
     
  20. Clif

    Clif Guest

    There sure does seem like a lot of unanswered questions to immediately jump to the conclusion that the report is so much hot air.
     

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