I'm sure there is more than one 'wild child' SJHS grad teaching today in JoCo that I would not wish for my child...but there are others that are A+.
The biggest user/seller of Newport Gold pot on the coast was one of my graduating class from HS. At our _th reunion, he was now in charge of one of the largest landscaping/horticulture/lawn maintenance companies in the state. I guess he adapted his talents from something illegal to legal...from grass to grass in other words.... Amazing how we wild children managed to become respectable as parents..lol
It did look a little confusing on my sentence about the parties. I was trying to state that she goes to chaperoned parties (because we both feel more comfortable with that situation). She also still has respect for all adults until warranted. Hope that came out a little better. All I am saying is that when I grew up I just did not see these kind of things. Yes, I was a partier and it looks like I turned out all right but it is different today. Some of my friends drop their children (teens) off at a house or club and don't check the situation out before driving away. I just think that my daughter feels more comfortable with me checking things out. Recently she went to a party and I did not know the family and I was waiting on her when curfew came around. She came in, before curfew, and I noticed she had on shorts, she left the house in blue jeans. I asked her about it and she pulled her jeans out her bag and showed them to me. Sure enough, everyone's worst nightmare, they had split all the way down the back side. She said the girl giving the sweet 16 party and her mom took her into the bedroom and loaned her a pair of shorts. I asked about the crowd and she stated that they wound up with about three boys because others (that we know well) came and found out adults were present, no drugs and no alcohol so they left. My daughter is not in a bubble but those kids who are still in elementary school still need to be for a while. Why not let them be children? Why arrest someone at the school who teaches them? That's all I am saying. I was given a chance to be a kid but in today's world it seems like it is more of a lynch mob mentality. Grace
i think sadly that for their own good, they can't stay innocent as long as we want them to or as long as maybe we did. if drug addicts and dealers are in places where they go, they need to know. true, you'd like to think that an elementary school is not where you'd find meth heads, but that seems to be the case. if the ocean is teeming with sharks and you send your kids in for a swim without warning them, who is to blame if they get eaten?
I have not read this entire thread - I admit it (busy schooling with the kids ). All I know is that the teacher has been charged. But I wanted to comment on this since I have a middle school child. Grace, I agree that we should let children be children; that's a big reason DH and I decided homeschool was the way to go for us. But it seems to me that steps were taken to make the arrest as "child- friendly" (if there is such a thing pertaining to arrest) as possible. Now if thay had sent S.W.A.T. in and snatched her outta the classroom in handcuffs, that would be traumatizing. As I understand it, nothing like that happened. The kids are going to KNOW why she is gone. Yes, it is terrible that kids have to face garbage like this these days. But, they just DO! If anything positive can come out of this, maybe it will be that both kids and parents will become more aware of the possibility that this danger is lurking right in the classrooms with them. NOT saying the teacher is guilty - time will tell. But the very idea that law enforcement had enough incriminating evidence to arrest her is cause for reasonable concern in the kids and parents. This statement is not clear to me. I know when I was a little kid, lynch mobs were MUCH more prevelant than they are now. And back then, it was legal too. So I think in THAT respect, kids are MORE protected. There are many reasons that some kids are not given a chance to just "be kids" today (drugs being a major one of those reasons) but I don't see "lynch mob mentality" as being a big one. Not trying to be rude or sound as if I am attacking. Just thought this was a little unclear. I realize (as you have stated) that you are pretty upset at some of the stuff said in this thread and that is probably a factor. We all get frustrated in here at times. :-D Yes, there are those who tend to jump the gun, so to speak, but, I really think that when people on her respond to such a story in anger and say stuff like..."I hope they ______ her/him", or "They outta _______ him/her", these people are saying such out of frustration at just what all is going on out there today. They probably mean "If this she/he really did this crime andis found guilty, then I hope they __________ her/him. Clif usually points out that they didn't POST that first part :-D . But I really do think that's what they usually mean. None of us are the same. Some lean a bit more towards a "nip it in the bud" mentality and others lean a bit more towards "but can we really be sure that it is what it is". Nothing wrong with either one in my opinion; just as long as there is BALANCE & we let the legal system do it's thing (it's OUR responsibility to make sure we vote good people into said system). Leaning too far in either direction is usually not a good thing for anyone. JMHO
Lynch mobs were never legal. I have personally read on this board some saying that the police wouldn't arrest someone unless they were guilty. I have read other comments in earlier threads where people did, indeed, say that they should hang someone without a trial (one during the Duke fiasco). You may really want to believe that people intend to say, "... if they are found guilty in a court of law", but my experiences with people tend to show that many really don't feel that way.
:lol: Well, maybe only in the "Good 'Ole Boy" "legal" (not so much) system down in South GA where I grew up:shock: :shock: That's just ignorance. Plenty of innocent people are arrested. I know. I still think that many of us just get so frustrated with all of the crime out there that when we see a story on the 4042 board, we tend to use it to "vent" our deepest anger about the state of society today. I guess there will be that exception that really does mean they would hang without a trial. But I think many are really just wishing there was a better and faster way to stop the horrible crimes we hear of. I'll have to admit that if I "saw" with my own two eyes, certain crimes, I'd think the perp should be shot right then. No needles, no Docs. Just one bullet and I'll check for a pulse to see if another bullet is needed.:mrgreen: But that's not how our justice system is set up and I know I'd be the one to go to jail and leave my kids with no Mom. What I can do is vote responsibly. [/quote] Point taken. May be true. I guess I am just thinking that when I get frustrated enough to vent, I usually DO mean "... if they are found guilty in a court of law". Like I said, if we consider each other's points of view objectively, I think it will help us all to come out with a more balanced position in the end.
Guilty or not guilty. Grandstanding or not. I don't like government lists. I have never had a cold bad enough that I would let my license be scanned to get some pills. What do people with no license do? Use more Kleenex? Maybe we could keep a list of people who buy too many boxes of Kleenex and try to figure out why they're avoiding pseudophedrine. Maybe they're hiding something.
yeahhhh yeahhhhh dat's da ticket! .... Maybe days gonna lynch doze tishu uza's fuh nat been'in greeen! Yeah! Daze killin' da enviiirument deah... yeah... Sorry. Don't know where that came from. :lol:
I understand what you are saying. Why I said lynch mob is that it seems as though people jump to the worse conclusion on others before hearing both sides. I get tired of people (not just my friends on 4042) jumping on the band wagon of condemning someone before all evidence is presented. Duke, Jenna 6 and others have people frustrated and I understand that but we can discuss items without always leaning one way. I was just giving my opinion as I know others were too. I stated in another Thread that I was peiosed at the lynch mob mentality on this one but did not mean it to be directed to anyone in particular. Everyone, including the news casters, seem to jump on a story before all of the facts are in. Who I am really mad at on this one particular issue is the sheriff's department and where they arrested her. News cameras and photographers being there did not help. I am not on a high horse about this I just get frustrated in general. Everyone has an opinion and can voice it in this great nation of our. Thanks, Grace
I wasnt condeming her, I was just stating that I agreed with the way it was handled by the SD.. I have not stated guilt or not..
THERE WASNT ANY NEWS CAMERAS THERE AND JUST ONE PHOTOGRAPHER ,THAT FOR ALL WE KNOW WAS A PARENT WALKING UP TO THE SCHOOL!
could be... or was the pic by that guy that WMPM gets pic's from all the time; he must listen to the police scanner??? He is right there at the scene of many traffic accidents and was involved with some sort of issue w/ the S'field police a few weeks back for getting in the way or crossing the crime scene tape, something like that. Any else remember this ... it was on the WMPM web site. PS: Yes, WMPM really does post lots of the local news that TV 5 and 11 do not -ever- cover. Much less the shell of a county paper...the Herald is so weak.
YES!!!! thats usually what happends and it was on wmpm first bc i remember seeing it! i am just tired of some people thinking and saying that every damn news channel in nc was there when they were NOT!