...plans Columbine-type attack... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301237,00.html "The weapons found included a 9 mm assault rifle that the teenager's mother had recently bought for him, Castor said. Police also found about 30 air-powered guns, plus swords, knives, hand grenades, a bomb-making book, videos of the 1999 Columbine attack in Colorado and violence-filled notebooks. The weapons were plainly visible in the boy's bedroom, Castor said." And here I thought homeschooling was about Christian education and AVOIDING conflict... guess he really picked up on that 'real school is evil' mantra... whoo!
He spent nine years in the public school system (was homeschooled less than a year). Sounds like his public school expereince and crazy mother (who gave him a gun) can take credit for the character he developed. You may be surprised to learn not all homeschoolers are Christians! There are a large number of "secular" homeschoolers in our area. People homeschool for many different reasons, not just their religious beliefs.
If I were to homeschool it would be bcause I am not christian. I came across an interesting quote in the "Relocation" magazine the other day. "Clayton has wonderful schools," said Disney."Everyone is so friendly, and the schools are as close as you can get to a Christian school without crossing the line".
I don't think homeschooling has anything to do with this. His upbringing would have alot to do with it. I also don't think going to a regular school has anything to do with something like this either. I think kids that have problems like this come from the parents who either don't pay attention to the child. Homeschool parents tend to blame the schools for this, but really I don't believe that. I don't believe in homeschooling, but I have a close friend who does do it but we have agreed to disagree on it and her daughter and my daughter who goes to Mcgee's are very close. The kids get along great. My neice was homeschooled for 5 yrs, and she hated ever minute of it. My brother finally put his foot down and put her in a private school, and man she came out of her shell and just amazing how well she does now..she is 16 now. She is no longer in the private school but she is no longer shy and excells in drama in school and she passes all her classes and she is in advance classes now. Homeschool isn't for everyone and I have to hand it to the ones that do it and have the patience to do it. I have another friend that homeschools her 3 kids and their personalities are the same way, shy and hold back alot, and they won't go anywhere with out their mother. One is 15, 13 and 6. I know of co-ops and I know how all that stuff works..but I think it still holds back the kids in socializing. Just my thoughts and not to knock anyone..but I hate it when I read how people blame the schools for the mistakes that their kids make. Sheri
Personally, I think the media is blowing this way out of proportion. All those guns and not one single bullet. How was he going to attack the school? By hitting people over the heads with the guns?
Clif, he might had. Do you know how hard you can hit someone with a gun? come here let me show you!!! He may have hid the bullets.
My eight year old said it best last night as he was watching the news with us: "Where were his parents?" I started to shelter him from this story, but you know what? All these other schools didn't think it could happen to him either. We discussed what to do if something like that happened at his school. :-( It 's got less than nothing to do with whether he was homeschooled or not.
I agree the media is blowing this one way out of proportion. On TV there was no mention that most of the guns laying on the table (though real looking) were just 'toys', airsoft type guns that are very popular with kids and mentioned on this board. Yes a 14 year old should not own an assault rifle and the parents certainly are an issue here as well. But the media will grab a story like this and make it all about the guns
His mom was stupid enough to buy him a rifle, don't you think she is stupid enough to buy him the bullets?
I'm all for the right to bear arms (Second Ammendment:A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.) (and that right is not for hunting or target shooting, like the Brady Bill people would have it, but for us to be able to defend ourselves against a corrupt government) but a mom buying her kid an assault rifle is a little much. Also, if it's been a year and a half since he's been in real school, it's a little long to hold a grudge for bullying...but, he is a kid and obviously has parents with questionable judgement...I think they're looking into charging the mom. I do agree that the area schools are a little more open about allowing their teachers to express their faith, to a point. It's not nearly as rigid as the schools were in Ohio (I grew up in Wake Co. but spent the first 10 years of married life between Cincinnati and Dayton). I knew I was 'home' when I went to a PTA meeting and they opened with prayer. (First Ammendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof)(people ignore that last phrase). (yeah, I'm on a Constitutional kick right now... ) a.
Luv what you stated And I too don't mean to "step on any homeschooler toes" ( I have a sis in law who does it) but I wholeheartedly agree with above. Its not any type of school that creates the child or causes the child to act in certain behaviours. In the long run, its up to the parents and the child(ren) to learn and do whats right in moral, respectful and non-violent ways. And once a grown, then its all up to the individual on how they will act/react in life.
An assault rifle? What, pray tell, makes it an assault rifle? (aside from the media telling you that). What about buying him a rifle makes her "stupid"? My Dad bought me my first rifle at 12. I would bet if you take a poll here, most kids either had their first rifle by their 14th birthday.
I used a .22 revolver for target practice on a regular basis since I was 6 years old. Got my first air rifle at 10. My first shotgun at 12. I never got a rifle, but could shoot my dad's and granddad's anytime I wanted starting at about 12. Never had a hand grenade though. I think my granddad might have drawn the line there.
my boys have all kinds of rifles, bows, shotguns and they are only 11. First one was given at the age of 5. They went to Target sports camp this past summer and we go to the clay/shooting range every chance we get.
There is nothing wrong with boys learning to use guns. There is a big problem with parents not having a clue what their kid is planning to do with those guns.
right, my ds had his first shotgun a 410 I think... its about teaching them what they are for and to respect what it can do..
Clif, In the photos on Fox News web site the rifle in questions appears to be an AK-47 but in the text they state its a 9mm 'assault rifle' ???? Ak-47s are not 9 mm ??? I use the term 'assault rifle' kind of as a catch all phrase for these type of weapons. Maybe my statement of a 14 year old shouldn't own an assault rifle was to board. I know a couple teenagers who competition shoot and I would trust them with any weapon. From just the little I know about this situation it appears this mother should have not bought her kid this gun to me it looks like the red flags were already there. My main point was basically the same as yours the media will blow this was out of porportion and make the focus of the story about the guns.
Exactly. It's all on the parents, at this age (mine being 11), they don't have free reign over their guns, they are locked in a gun safe with me having the only key.
In spite of what the anti-second amendment crowd would have you believe, private citizens are not allowed to own "assault rifles" since the late 30's. The fact that it may "look" like an AK-47, does not mean it will fire like one. Heck, I had a BB gun that looked like an UZI. No, I'm not accusing you (in this post) of helping to spread the irrational hatred of guns by using the term "assault rifle". You now know better and, I hope, will correct others who improperly use this term. Personally, and keep an eye out for the news to break on this, I think the rifle Mom bought at the gun show had it's barrel plugged (or was otherwise inoperable).