There was a movie "American Drive-in", I think it was called, that had a great quote. The "tough" kids are watching the regular kids at a roller rink. And one says, "They're having fun." The leader says, "They aren't having fun. They only think they're having fun." This is basically what blusdrmr is saying. It doesn't matter what Mr. Pullman says he believes. What he really believes is what someone else says he believes.
I agree. I wonder if the writer had depicted any other religion, would people be as objective as they are when someone of the Christian faith states their opinion on it. hmmmmm...hey, can't help but wonder.
Are you suggesting that I am not Christian? Or are you suggesting that you are more Christian than I am? Exactly what do you mean by that statement?
Some people are looking for a war on Christianity; some are looking for a race war; some are looking for signs of the "end times;" etc. Generally, they all find what they are looking for.
Really? I love how you think....really I do. You assume (funny word, there, ya know) that I was aiming in that direction and I was not. I simply asked how you would take this man for his word without knowing him in some way, shape or form. How do you KNOW he is telling the truth? I find it odd that you put so much faith in him. (you see....I knew you would jump on that wagon pretty quickly. The bait was wayyyyyyyy to easy)
WOW! I can't believe you are psychic, Cliffy!:roll: It is so amazing that you can "read" right into what I am saying. WOW, I am so impressed.:roll: Gee......I was wondering what I was saying....thanks for clearing that up, Cliffy, old boy.
You're welcome. Oh, by the way, I understand there's a cell phone store that needs to go out of business. If you ask nicely, they might hire you as manager and speed up the process.
Ouch, man! True, but ouch! I actually bought a phone from him (prior to his emergence on this board). It is rare that Clif and I agree, but the religion thing is somewhere we seem to meet on some common ground. In this case Blus is a little more off base than usual, but I especially like it when he asks how much 'faith' you put in the authors own words...isn't that a little like 'faith' in general?
If you are a Christian parent, or any type of parent that gives a dang about their kids development, you'll not shy away from these sorts of things. Expose your children to all sorts of different viewpoints (gasp!) and let them grow up to be their own person. Or you could just burn all of their Harry Potter books and teletubby dolls.
In no way shape or form. Merely an observation......I meant that it was assumed that this person felt like they had some opposition here. And they did to a degree. They were warning people that if you are a Christian family, this may be a movie you will want to avoid. Atleast that's how I read it. But then, I make sure I understand and look at how the person is coming across. Some did this and others jumped to the defense. And the person also said that it may not apply to people who are not Christians or to Christians that feel it is okay. Bottom line is that he was referring his comments to people of the Christian faith. If he had got on here and referred to people of the Muslim faith would you anyone had anything to say? More than likely not.
Exactly what age would be appropriate to introduce a twisted, manipulated version of spew against Christianity? Would 5 be appropriate? How about 8? This is a warm and fuzzy movie with talking animals and cool computer graphics. At an early age, kids might want to see it, but being a parent is not always about democracy. If you strongly have beliefs in the Christian faith and then allow this guy to plainly state to the Washington Post that his plan is to undermine the basis of Christian belief, then what do you do? What exactly is the basis for Christian belief? Short answer. Christ. I don't think a Christian parent has any business carrying a child to see such a movie where Christianity is labeled as wrong. We're not talking about Santa Claus here. We're talking about an undermining assault on the core of the Christian family. Furthermore, with the author's intent already laid out, what Christian would give him money to fund his efforts to turn your children beliefs against your own. If Osama Bin Laden wrote a fictional story dipicting America in a negative manner, would you stand by your country and your principles and not buy the book or watch the movie? With older children (pre-teens, teens) it could be open for discussion. With small children...no. There is no sound logic in clouding their young minds. They'll learn what many in the world think of their Savior soon enough. If you're a Christian, it should matter I believe. If you're not, then its not applicable to you. As a Christian parent, I accept my responsibilities to both my child, society and God.
Awww.....that's sweet, Clifford. Nice of you to try to throw an insult at me. Bad one....but nice try. BTW...I understand there is a sheep farm close to here that needs some love......go show 'em how it's done.
Just out of curiosity, what has this to do with The Golden Compass? One presumes you have a link to The Washington Post wherein he said this. So, I presume you saw the movie (or at least read the book) and saw this personally? Please point it out. I don't think you're stupid enough to base this all on some anonymous email you received, right?
What? You weren't good enough for them? It must be sobering to not only be rejected by women, but by animals as well.
This is true. However, be that as it may, why can't you just look at it like it is a general opinion from one Christian to another?
I'm just saying that a young child doesn't necessarily need to be questioning his/her parents' own faith at a young age. Trying to explain how everyone isn't a Christian and some hate Christianity to a young child is not appropriate when you're raising them in a Christian family and a Christian church. They will have the opportunity to ponder their own acceptance of Christ through faith as they mature. From the parents' perspective, I cannot understand the mindset of handing over your money to see a movie or buy a book in which the author makes his intent clear. Two facts here exists: (1) He wants to undermine Christianity and (2) this book/movie is directed to elementary school students. Scholastic is offering the book series. My intent is to simply draw attention of the other Christian members about what this movie and author represent. They make the choice. By principle, I cannot give money to a man who insults something that I believe in and that was my point about Osama Bin Laden and a hypothetical question imposed. I love my country and wouldn't put one dime in his pocket knowingly. That's all I was trying to say.
From an intelligent person's perspective, I cannot understand the mindset of telling everyone that the author wants to undermine Christianity when there is no basis for that statement, other than some anonymous email saying so, including the accuser having never seen the movie nor read the book.
This is all well and good... so it's about time to watch the Grey's Anatomy that I missed a few weeks back. Time for some Fiction.
