What is social services thinking?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by ncmom, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. ncmom

    ncmom Well-Known Member

    The mom is 27 ... lives with her parents ...has had 6 children ... she gave four others up for adoption.

     
  2. granola acres mayor

    granola acres mayor Well-Known Member

    Wholey freekin crap!!!! what in the world are people thinking?
    I will pray for the family that had him to have him returned to them.
     
  3. Tit4Tat

    Tit4Tat Well-Known Member

    stupid. ugh. makes me mad as hell...
     
  4. gaby's mom

    gaby's mom Well-Known Member

    you've got to be friggin kidding!! She doesn't exactly have a great track record--picks and chooses which child she wants and which she gives away. Makes me sick
     
  5. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    They're probably thinking they are running out of foster homes - due to baby factories like her!
     
  6. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    I think Social Services will pay to have her tubes tied. Just a thought.
     
  7. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    I don't understand it, but I sure as heck am glad I don't have to make the decision. :?
     
  8. MisunderstoodMind

    MisunderstoodMind Well-Known Member

    Well, well, well

    In that particular case, a foster home wouldn't have been an issue. There are people lined up to adopt children such as her. That being said, she would have had a wonderful opportunity to have a stable, loving, non-dump-your-baby-at-Mickey D's- home, and most likely grown to be a wonderful young woman. HOWEVER, our wonderful system wants to keep the family together... what family??? I mean, I've worked with ALOT of families and "drive thru Drop-off" isn't a popular family value!

    In short, the woman started making a stink and requested her baby back. To avoid negative press, the system caved and gave her back. In 5 years she'll be in school. Most likely she'll have serious issues and always need special assistance. Mom will be to busy and have several others by that time so she won't know the difference. I feel safe to assume that she'll be "unavailable" when the school calls her because her child is sick.

    From there we have the wonderful teen years. Mom still won't have a clue, but will have a hefty welfare check. Daughter will be acting out in a big way. Hmm... she'll probably end up in a group home or foster care.

    I apoligize for painting such a negative picture, but I've been in this line of work for a good bit. I do like my work, but the fact nobody seems to learn from their mistakes is what gets me. I've seen seriously abused children put back with the same abusive parents time after time. Yup, everytime they go back they get beat, burned, and tormented all over again.
     
  9. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member


    It's a thankless job, but Thank You! I sometimes think of going to school and getting into social work - I just don't know if I can stomach some of these "parents".
     
  10. MisunderstoodMind

    MisunderstoodMind Well-Known Member

    I've worked with children from preschool to lock-downs. Honestly, parents never cease to surprise me. Although times get stressful, I keep in mind that I can't save them all. However, I can help some. I'm aware of my limitations and accept them with open eyes. Yes, there are some cases that concluded badly. The there are the others... those few that wouldn't have made it without me. In the end, I know I do the best I can... hopefully in the end that will be good enough.

    I'm okie with the parents that can't do better.... The ones that can but choose not to are harder to take. Couple that with a system that doesn't have the sense God gave a goose and we have a fine recipe for &&%^%#@#!

    Oh, Thanks so very much. There are other paths you can choose besides Social Work. Most of the time all that gets you is a glorified secretarial position. I'm not knocking secretaries, but when workers have case loads of 100+ the excessive paperwork the quality of supervision is sacrificed. If interested I'd be more than happy to share some ideas.
     
  11. Melynda

    Melynda Well-Known Member

    Maybe she was able to figure out who da baby's daddy was with respect to the children she actually kept. Maybe the baby she dumped at McDonalds started resembling one of her former play pals (who had a paying job) ... and she decided to try to cash in.

    People like this woman make me sick. I hope she comes to her senses & returns the baby to the loving arms of the foster parents.
     
  12. MisunderstoodMind

    MisunderstoodMind Well-Known Member

    I don't think she had any "sense" to start with. I mean, we are talking about a woman that brought her kid with her when dumping her other kid in McD's bathroom. Heck, everyone knows to leave unwanted infants at the front counter!
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2007
  13. Abdulina

    Abdulina Well-Known Member

    The social services system never fails to amaze me. They do their best to keep "families" together. One child years ago was 8yo at the time we were looking into adopting him through the system. But he was so traumatized by the time he got to that point available for adoption. Why? Because SS kept sending him back to the same drunk father so that the "family" could stay together. They lived in a car! And it's not like the guy treated him that great either if you get the picture. So, after years of taking him away and sending him back to the same bad situation, social services finally decided it was in his best interest to be adopted. Urghh. Why do they wait so long for the children to have a chance? Not many people want to adopt older children. We are more of a minority in that we do adopt older kids. But all children would have more of a chance if social services would release them earlier and try to put them in a good situation instead of returning them to bad ones...over & over & over again! It's one thing to give someone a second chance but honestly, let's not give them 5 or 6 chances to get being a parent right when it hurts the well-being of the child.

    What alot of people don't know is aodpting from social services is not all that easy. We looked into it. Yes, you have to go through hours of training, which if you have children at home already, is near impossible to find someone to sit w/ them for all those hours. Not only that, when we looked into it, we were told that we could only adopt IF we fostered. Keep in mind, we were already experienced adoptive parents. We could not foster given our situation w/ our children at home. But, we could adopt. Yet NC told us we could not unless we foster. Follow that? Willing to give older children a home and get them out of the system yet social services would rather keep them in the system. I hear this complaint from many adoptive families all over the country. The system is flawed somewhat. It is extremely sad for the children being bounced around all over. I had one child from my daugther's class come up to me and beg me to adopt him when he found out my daughter was adopted. It is truly sad all around. These kids deserve a chance. I LOVE what VA is doing. They let the foster kids go on a weekend w/ "host"(prospective) adoptive families. Many of these weekend stay overs have led to adoption. We hosted children for a week from another country that we ended up adopting. Many people have misconceptions of the children in the system and having them actually stay w/ families & interact w/ them breaks that thinking.

    It is National Adoption Month. Please, please consider it. There are so many all over the world that need a forever family. You could be that family.

    As for social services, I feel sorry for the social workers who's case loads are unreal. It is NOT the fault of any of the social workers trying to do the best they can w/ the limited resources and time they are given. We need to put more into this system. The children are our future and we need to make an investment in them. I've met many foster families over the years. And adoptive families as well. Bottom line is they love the kids but sometimes just are tired of a system that needs some changes to help the kids more.

    I can not thank the social workers enough for what they do. We are followed by social workers for 3 years after each adoption we do. We've never been w/out a social worker--LOL due to the spacing of our adoptions. However, I can not imagine being in the position of a social worker trying to determine if the family is best for the child or not and whether or not to keep them together. However, in this McDonalds' case, I can honestly say w/out a doubt, that baby does not belong w/ this family. Too many other factors that are going on here.

    Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!! Be thankful for the families you have but do not forget about the children who are left behind.

    Take care,

    Stephanie--mom to 7
     

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