OK, so Cliff...are you saying if we celebrate Christmas coming up on Dec. 25 we are celebrating the rebirth of the Sun and this is actually the "Reason for the Season" however, if we also celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ on December 25 we should call it something else.....like Happy Birthday Jesus Day......and this has nothing to do with Christmas trees, yule logs, presents because all that stuff is associated with the first sentence. We could easily celebrate the birth of Jesus by reading a verse in the Bible and it be celebration enough. This is just what I am getting out of this conversation.
You are not actually celebrating the rebirth of the Sun, but you are celebrating the cycle of life/death and rebirth that it all represents. Exactly. All I'm saying, and the reason that I started this whole thread, is that I'm tired of the platitude "Remember: Jesus Is The Reason For The Season". He's not and never was the reason for the season. The season was there in something similar to it's current form long before Christ was born. Family and friends getting together, decorating trees, caroling, gift exchanging, all of that and more that we now call Christmas was going on at this time of year long before Jesus was born. So, that being the case, how is it that He is the reason for the season?
I bet you are that person who takes great joy in telling kids the Tooth Fairy isn't real and believing in the Easter Bunny isn't PC if your over the age of 8. what a buzz killer clif. I still hope you have Merry Christmas anyway... and I hope all your kids & grandkids enjoy their pagan gifts.
You are out of your ever loving mind. You are talking about the guy who, every year, gets into huge arguments here because I insist Santa Claus is real. Of course I won't try to convince you that Santa died for our sins. But, hey, if you want to believe in it yourself, go for it.
You do have a point there. :lol: ROFLMAOWPIMPTIME So, good... then drop it already. http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/ROFLMAOWPIMPTIME In case y'all need some help with my "pimptime". :mrgreen:
Letter from Jesus about Christmas Dear Children, It has come to my attention that many of you are upset that folks are taking My name out of the season. Maybe you've forgotten that I wasn't actually born during this time of the year and that it was some of your predecessors who decided to celebrate My birthday on what was actually a time of pagan festival. Although I do appreciate being remembered anytime. How I personally feel about this celebration can probably be most easily understood by those of you who have been blessed with children of your own. I don't care what you call the day. If you want to celebrate My birth, just GET ALONG AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER. Now, having said that let Me go on. If it bothers you that the town in which you live doesn't allow a scene depicting My birth, then just get rid of a couple of Santas and snowmen and put in a small Nativity scene on your own front lawn. If all My followers did that there wouldn't be any need for such a scene on the town square because there would be many of them all around town. Stop worrying about the fact that people are calling the tree a holiday tree, instead of a Christmas tree. It was I who made all trees. You can remember Me anytime you see any tree. Decorate a grape vine if you wish: I actually spoke of that one in a teaching, explaining who I am in relation to you and what each of our tasks were. If you have forgotten that one, look up John 15: 1 - 8. If you want to give Me a present in remembrance of My birth here is my wish list. Choose something from it: 1. Instead of writing protest letters objecting to the way My birthday is being celebrated, write letters of love and hope to soldiers away from home. They are terribly afraid and lonely this time of year. I know, they tell Me all the time. 2. Visit someone in a nursing home. You don't have to know them personally. They just need to know that someone cares about them. 3. Instead of writing George complaining about the wording on the cards his staff sent out this year, why don't you write and tell him that you'll be praying for him and his family this year. Then follow up. It will be nice hearing from you again. 4. Instead of giving your children a lot of gifts you can't afford and they don't need, spend time with them. Tell them the story of My birth, and why I came to live with you down here. Hold them in your arms and remind them that I love them. 5. Pick someone that has hurt you in the past and forgive him or her. 6. Did you know that someone in your town will attempt to take their own life this season because they feel so alone and hopeless? Since you don't know who that person is, try giving everyone you meet a warm smile; it could make the difference. 7. Instead of nit-picking about what the retailer in your town calls the holiday, be patient with the people who work there. Give them a warm smile and a kind word. Even if they aren't allowed to wish you a "Merry Christmas" that doesn't keep you from wishing them one. Then stop shopping there on Sunday. If the store didn't make so much money on that day they'd close and let their employees spend the day at home with their families 8. If you really want to make a difference, support a missionary-- especially one who takes My love and Good News to those who have never heard My name. 9. Here's a good one. There are individuals and whole families in your town who not only will have no "Christmas" tree, but neither will they have any presents to give or receive. If you don't know them, buy some food and a few gifts and give them to the Salvation Army or some other charity which believes in Me and they will make the delivery for you. 10. Finally, if you want to make a statement about your belief in and loyalty to Me, then behave like a Christian. Don't do things in secret that you wouldn't do in My presence. Let people know by your actions that you are one of mine. Don't forget; I am Jesus and can take care of Myself. Just love Me and do what I have told you to do. I'll take care of all the rest. Check out the list above and get to work; time is short. I'll help you, but the ball is now in your court. And do have a most blessed Christmas with all those whom you love and remember. I LOVE YOU, JESUS
Thanks Kent. Merry Christmas, everyone! PS... Ken I would greatly appreciate it the Depends. :mrgreen:
Thanks Ken - loved it. And for the rest of you, Merry Merry Christmas and may God bless you all. BTW, as for all the other holidays that we celebrate that have now been moved to Mondays for convenience sake, i really do not understand the argument about celebrating Christ's birth on a different day very concerning.
