Should We Ban this One? Vote

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by mordorboy, Dec 14, 2007.

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Should JC schools ban this poetry book from elementary schools?

  1. Yes

    1 vote(s)
    9.1%
  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    90.9%
  1. mordorboy

    mordorboy Well-Known Member

    Here is passage from a book of poetry I found in a local elementary library.

    "may the wine go straight to my lover,
    flowing gently over lips and teeth.
    I belong to my lover, and his desire is for me."

    and

    "your graceful legs are like jewels....your navel is a rounded goblet...your breasts are like two fawns...your breasts are like clusters of fruit...I will take hold of its fruit...may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples and you mouth like the best wine."

    Vote!
     
  2. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Hmm, sounds like the Book of Solomon to me.
     
  3. KellBell

    KellBell Well-Known Member

    no elementary student is going to pick up a book of poetry unless forced. So the the chances of an elementary student reading this, is almost zero.

    Just out of curiosity, what elementary book is this, I have two in 5th grade and they have brought home and read (what seems like) every book there. Do tell the title of the elementary school poetry book, I am volunteering at the school next week, I want to stop by and check it out.
     
  4. Clif

    Clif Guest

    The cited book is one you will not find in elementary schools. It's the Bible.
     
  5. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    The passages are from the Book of Solomon in the Bible but I don't know which translation he quoted it from. It is referring to a newly married couple, on their wedding night and I guess it can be viewed as erotic. But, it is meant as an example of what MARRIED sex can be like for a newlywed couple.

    Can you imagine your husband referring to your breasts like this...
    :lol:
     
  6. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    These are verses from scripture, but I think some of this wording is messed up, or placed incorrectly. . .

    In the proper context (ie - placed in the bible) with what came before and what follows, it is acceptable.

    Taken out, re-arranged and thrown about - it is sacreligious.
     
  7. KellBell

    KellBell Well-Known Member

    well I guess there are worse things for them to be referred to...LOL. It is a bit odd none-the-less. :lol:
     
  8. Clif

    Clif Guest

    It is actually quite accurate. It is from Chapter 7 of Solomon (NIV)
     
  9. mordorboy

    mordorboy Well-Known Member

    Actually, Clif, I can't speak for the area elementary schools here in JC (only because I haven't looked), but in Guilford and Randolph counties the Bible was available in the public schools when I was a media specialist there in 2004. It was on the shelf available to all.

    Zoo...You're right. When a passage is taken out of context, it could be very offensive, but it is not for you or any other to say what is offensive to me or the general public.

    I'm calling the school today to see if the book is truly banned or if it has been removed to a "reserved" section. That is usually what happens. The N&O might not have given the full picture.
     
  10. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    What about - quoting myself here ". . . but I think some of this wording is messed up, or placed incorrectly. . ." isn't clear??? Wording messed up -placed incorrectly INCLUDES omitted lines.

    The original post stated:

    "your graceful legs are like jewels....your navel is a rounded goblet...your breasts are like two fawns...your breasts are like clusters of fruit...I will take hold of its fruit...may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples and you mouth like the best wine."

    Just a few omissions, I have to go to work -

    How beautiful your sandaled feet,
    O prince's daughter!
    Your graceful legs are like jewels,
    the work of a craftsman's hands.

    Your navel is a rounded goblet
    that never lacks blended wine.


    Your breasts are like two fawns,
    twins of a gizelle


    Your stature is like that of the palm,
    and your breasts like clusters of fruit.

    I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
    I will take hold of its fruit."
    May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine,
    the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine.
     
  11. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    IF a student was to read this, when they go to verses like:

    " Your neck is like an ivory tower.
    Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon
    by the gate of Bath Rabbim.
    Your nose is like the tower of Lebanon
    looking toward Damascus."
    and

    "Your head crowns you like Mount Carmel.
    Your hair is like royal tapestry;
    the king is held captive by its tresses."

    They'd definitely cool off :shock:
     
  12. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Then they were in violation of a 1998 appeals court ruling

    We recently had a discussion where it was learned that Bibles can be made available in high schools, but not in elementary schools.
     
  13. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    A thousand years or two ago that may have been hardcore porn.

    On second thought I got a feeling we are pretty tame today.
     
  14. gaby's mom

    gaby's mom Well-Known Member

    highly unlikely!!!
     
  15. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    Translated: "Your legs are like diamonds - which can cut glass. How about shaving woman!"

    Translated: "I wouldn't have to resort to drinking from your belly button if your Mother hadn't bought us those gosh-awful ugly glasses to go with the gosh-darned-awful ugly dinnerware."

    Translated: "Your breasts are like two fawns. Fawns are deer. Men hunt deer. I hunt deer. Gee...I wish I was out in the woods hunting right now."

    Translated: "Your boobs are like bananas...long and pointing south. Where the heck are the perky boobs I dated? (man...I really wish I was in the woods hunting)"

    Translated: "Come here, banana-boobs. Yeah...your breath smells like wild irish rose and your mouth reminds me of something fermented. But hey...you're better than nothing. "

    Sue me...I'm punchy. It's been a long week. :)
     
  16. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Magnolia... :lol::lol: ROFLOL, especially the last one!!
     
  17. Grace Slick

    Grace Slick Well-Known Member

    Magnolia, I laughed and laughed...wonderful job.

    This is a very good Thread. Picked up it was the Bible right away. For those who voted no, I guess none of you would mind if other religions have books in the same library in elementary school. For those who voted yes, is it because it is religious or because of the context?

    Grace
     

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