Is this policy for all JOCO schools or just Dixon?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by kaci, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. Southernborn

    Southernborn Well-Known Member

    If you notice, it doesn't apply to the K-2nd grades. Children in grades 3-5 should know better. When my daughters were in k-2 we had problems w/talking UNTIL I started punishing them at home for not following the rules at school. Am I the only one that does this?

    Conduct does need to be taught. I see children that are very unruly when I go to school for different reasons. My 5th grader even complains about the "bad" ones in her class that disrupts them all. It's the same ones all the time. Reality is your actions do have an effect on your work performance in the real world.
     
  2. shar824

    shar824 Well-Known Member

    I totally agree with that SB! However LUNCHTIME???? That is a stupid rule!!! That bugs me...but oh well...rules are rules...:x
     
  3. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Maybe you didn't get the gist of the initial post, this is a child that is very well behaved and mannered and is punished at home for not following the rules (just got off a month of being grounded for pulling the cards for talking) but maybe the teacher is taking the definition of bad conduct too far. As stated before when asked if the child was disruptive or causing any trouble the answer is no. The child is extremely involved in all extracurricular activities offered, excels at all her projects and gets involved in anything scholastic she can. The way i see it, having the gift of gab is a blessing in the real world or should all our kids fit the same cookie cutter mold?
     
  4. JayP

    JayP Well-Known Member

    I agree. In class, kids should shut the hell up and learn. Lunch should be fair game though. Let the talkers get it out of their system. Then get back to work.

    Sounds like the definition of 'conduct' is a bit broad here.
     
  5. JayP

    JayP Well-Known Member

    Maybe if you're between the ages of 0 and 18.
     
  6. JenJen458

    JenJen458 Well-Known Member

    I do punish mine for not following the rules at school, have been from day one and even did it in preschool. I have tried everything under the sun to get him to stop talking so much, but nothing seems to work. He got into trouble yesterday for talking (third day in a row) so he was not allowed to go to his soccer game. I am going to talk to his teacher about it at our next conference because lately punishing him has not been working. He is a really good kid and never gets into trouble for anything but talking.
     
  7. kookookacho

    kookookacho Well-Known Member


    NO...green, yellow, & Red... Yellow receives a whoopin' the same as a Red. My little guy has had the toughest time keeping his little mouth shut too! Bless his heart, I never truly knew what my parents meant by "this hurts me more than you" until kiddo started kindergarten. :neutral: We've almost survived! :mrgreen:
     
  8. JenJen458

    JenJen458 Well-Known Member

    My little guy has yellow, red, & blue. Blue being the worst (a call from the principal, that has not happened yet). I was confused at first he had to explain it to me. I am so ready for summer!
     
  9. Southernborn

    Southernborn Well-Known Member

    Maybe he's bored?

    My youngest used to get into trouble all the time for talking and the teacher and I talked to her all the time about it. We had even discussed getting her tested for ADD. You know what it turned out being? This was in 2nd grade and her tonsils were always huge. I took her to the ENT and they determined she had sleep apnea. As soon as they removed her tonsils and adenoids, it's like another child appeared. Her change was so dramatic is was almost scary.
     
  10. Southernborn

    Southernborn Well-Known Member

    Kaci,

    I guess my question is was the teacher communicating that she was getting in trouble at school to the parents? It seems like they were because the girl was getting into trouble at home for it.

    I guess I have mixed views, because that sounded like my daughter to a T, but she did finally get it and not talk anymore. I guess the rules are the rules and they have to follow them for everyone to be firm, fair and consistent. Maybe one good thing will come out of this. Maybe the little girl will finally realize that talking when asked not to does have a negative impact and she will stop. I guess on the other hand if the parent did get this waived for the child, wouldn't that tell the girl it's okay to break the rules, because you are special?
     
  11. JenJen458

    JenJen458 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I think he is board or just trying to get attention. With a new baby at home he isn't getting as much attention at home as he use to so. I'm trying to show him all the attention I can it is just hard sometimes, but I will try harder.

    That is amazing that she changed so much after having her tonsils and adenoids removed. If mine changed that much I think it would scare me. But he had his tonsils and adenoids removed when he was two so no chance of that happening.:lol:
     
  12. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Ok, maybe you aren't gonna get it, her parents punished her because she had to pull the card for talking in the cafeteria, no one is saying punishment shouldn't take place for breaking rules even if they are taking the word of the rule too far. What i and several other parents are upset about is using it to keep the kids off honor roll - talking a little bit, not being a disruption, getting in no trouble but getting an N for conduct seems taking it too far when every other aspect of conduct is above reproach. If you have not yet had to fight the system over something then i doubt you will understand.
     
  13. harleygirl

    harleygirl Well-Known Member

    Another :grouphug:

    Dang ya'll. Come on now, don't make me whoop your tails. :mrgreen:
     
  14. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Aw, you know it is all good, just difference of opinion and having the benefit of having already raised my kids and knowing how my way worked always keeps me from really arguing over child raising methods:lol:
     
  15. harleygirl

    harleygirl Well-Known Member

    Ok, check your dern pm's
     
  16. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Oh cool, hope you had a good time, i would much rather have been there than at work:cheers:
     
  17. Southernborn

    Southernborn Well-Known Member

    Actually I had to fight the system two years ago. They redistricted my then 3rd grader to Cleveland Elementary, but then back to Clayton Middle for middle school. If she would of had to attend Cleveland Middle then I would not of had a problem w/the transfer. I didn't think it was in her best interest to go to a new elementary school for two years with people she didn't know and then back to her regular middle school. I spoke with everyone I could speak with at the administration office. Larry and Donna were the only two who would help me. After one of them directed me to a reporter, etc. my transfer finally got approved. I just couldn't have one kid at Cleveland and one at Clayton (at the same time) that was a ridiculous request from me as a parent.

    Like I said though, if that was the only incident and the girl excels in all other behavioral areas, then why would the teacher give her an N in conduct in the first place? Conduct is all behavior not just talking. If that is the true reason for the N, just a couple times talking (not a weekly problem), then the parent should speak with the administrators at the school. If it's that important don't wait around for a return call, show up at school and speak to the principal or one of their several assistants about the concerns. I guess I just find it hard to believe that a teacher would give an N for a couple times talking when not suppose to. If she did then maybe the teacher has the problem.
     
  18. harleygirl

    harleygirl Well-Known Member


    She said she hadn't seen you in a while, and unfortunately I said the same. :cry:

    Next time. Actually I'll be down Friday (not the usual friday night plans) for work.
     
  19. AWmom

    AWmom Well-Known Member

    My children are not allowed to talk during the first 10minutes of lunch either and then during recess they have to walk laps if they don't fininsh their work. That to me seems crazy too. When do these kids have time to play and talk or just being a kid???? No wonder by the time they get to the older grades they are already burnt out and not like school. My kids say that if their work is not done then they have to do laps as their punishment. Afterwards there is time to play with friends. I am not sure I understand this whole concept. Plus at their school they are no longer able to say they are playing during recess "physical activity time" or someone will get in trouble (their teacher) if they say the wrong time. I recieved a letter earlier in the school year from school saying that the children are not allowed to say they are playing but that they are "jumping, running, skipping, etc". Apparently they could be asked by an administrator at any time and have to be prepared to answer the question. I realize where this may stem from and it is because of the high prevelance of obesity in the children, but damn let the kids play and say they are playing!!!!!!:x Our kids should not be worried during recess time that they must answer questions correctly about playing on the PLAYGROUND!!!!!
     
  20. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Ah, now we are on the same page. At Dixon this is not an isolated situation, has happened with numerous kids and sorry i didn't state in the beginning, the meeting is already set to meet with the principal next week. That is why i was so shocked because i also believe conduct grade is all consuming of all conduct and they have taken the letter of the rule too far. Now you understand why i was shocked and then to find out it is not an isolated incident is very concerning.
     

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