Is this policy for all JOCO schools or just Dixon?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by kaci, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Well call me, maybe i can get away a bit early if you are gonna be around.
     
  2. Southernborn

    Southernborn Well-Known Member

    Yes I do understand now.

    I think all the rules can be carried a little too far at times, but this probably protects the school board from law suits from parents stating they SB is playing favorites. Maybe something has happened like this in the past and that is why the rule was made? I can't answer that, but saying it's possible.

    I know I don't like it when my 5th grader comes home and the whole class has had to walk laps, etc. due to the same 6-8 kids being disruptive in class, so the whole class gets punished. I say we need to send the disruptive ones to the office every time they are that way and let them start calling their parents to come get them. I bet those parents would get involved then and it'd cut out a bunch of this bull.
     
  3. AWmom

    AWmom Well-Known Member

    I 2nd that!
     
  4. JenJen458

    JenJen458 Well-Known Member

    :iagree:
     
  5. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    i'm gonna do some more digging and will keep ya'll informed on the situation.
     
  6. MLH

    MLH Well-Known Member

    McGee's policy for 3rd thru 5th pull 0 to 7 cards = S, 8 to 13 cards = N, over 13 = U. And yes if you make an N you can't make the honor roll. This happened to my son 1st 9 weeks.
     
  7. This is one of the most vicious, cruel threads. A few things need to be pointed out:

    1) The teacher involved CANNOT respond because to do so would be unprofessional. You have attacked in the coldest way someone who can't even respond here.

    2) No one, no one pulls a ticket for "talking." Or even being a little chatterbox. Generally a child pulls a ticket when their behavior begins to hurt the ability of other kids to learn. Everyone is glad that the child in question is performing well. However, teachers need to teach an entire classroom of children.

    I doubt very much whether the commenters here could last half a day in a room full of fifth graders, much less teach them anything worthwhile.

    3) You really needed to bring up the teacher's miscarriage? Honestly. That was the cruelest -- not to mention meaningless -- part of the first post. Not only have you specifically identified a single teacher with that tidbit, you've reminded her of the worst day of her life.

    4) Every single 5th grade teacher at Dixon Rd. is a mom. They each try to bring compassion and caring to a difficult job.

    5) If you truly wanted to know district policy, or school policy, all you needed to do was call. Be honest. You posted here bcause you wanted to hurt the adult who hurt your child's feelings. Mission accomplished.

    And to the rest of you who chattered away, please remember: You are getting not even half the story. Because of issues of professionalism and confidentiality, you won't ever hear the rest. The next time you want to use your keyboards to trash someone, please consider whether you are really in a position to judge the situation.
     
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  8. Twitch

    Twitch Well-Known Member

    Anonymous I believe you should go back and reread the first post. The child was being punished in the cafeteria and not the classroom. Unless this teacher was holding a class on table manners I couldn't see how this would be disruptive to the entire classroom of children.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2008
  9. Twitch

    Twitch Well-Known Member

    Also one more thing the rule about disruptive

    when a child is considered a disruption is when they impede the learning of others.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2008
  10. Twitch

    Twitch Well-Known Member

    Honestly why would you tell a group of children that you had a miscarriage. This is very unprofessional. I wonder how many children came home that day and asked what does this mean?

    I am sure that this parent didn't set out to hurt YOUR feelings. If your not the teacher involved in this incident your sure making yourself look very guilty.
     
  11. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    WOW, i truly hope you are not the teacher in question. #1 obviously if you were actually a teacher you would have been capable of reading the entire post and making an intelligent response and #2, if the teacher being spoken about had never cried to a classroom of 10yo's about her miscarriage it would never have been brought up, evidently she had no problem making it public knowledge and talking in the classroom about her personal business yet felt compelled to punish children for talking in the cafeteria and since then i have found also the bathroom. Children learn more from example than words and the teacher that these children have been judged and punished by has given all of them details of her personal life. Let me ask any of you adults out there, how many of you know the names of your teacher's husband?

    On another note, i really appreciate all the pm's i have received in support and i do understand your fear of posting due to the fact that there are a few Dixon 5th grade teachers that post regularly on the board. i will keep you informed on the development of this situation. Like i explained to the child in question, when a rule is in place you do have to adher to it, but if the rule is wrong then if you are not a cookie cutter person whose spirit is being shot down, you will fight to change it.
     
  12. All Children First

    All Children First Well-Known Member

    Twitch : While I cannot address the main issue of this post, I can tell you that when I suffered a miscarriage, I had not even told my students I was pregnant. A fellow teacher, with whom I was not even a good acquaintance (much less a friend), told several of my students why I was out. They, of course, told everyone else. When I came back, it was to many questions that I carefully, and painfully, addressed as briefly as I could without "blowing off" my students.

    Not having been there, I don't know what happened, but if her students knew she was pregnant, they were going to notice that she never grew in size. Somehow, they were going to wonder what was going on.

    When I questioned the teacher for sharing my personal information, she said it was her right to answer questions any way she chose. (Personally, if someone asks me why another teacher is not at school, I answer "I'm not sure.")

    To the teacher, if you read this forum: I am sorry for the suffering you are going through. Please know you are not alone, and that the prayers of many who have gone through this are with you.
     
  13. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    ACF, if you go back and read the first post, you will see that i stated my heart goes out to what she was going through even though i do not believe she should have shared it with a room full of 10yo's, honestly she could not have been far enough along to show if she was pregnant and bless her heart lost that baby and now is pregnant again - i never told my own children about the next one until about 4-5 months when i knew i was through the first dangerous 3 months and was just starting to show, but instead of focusing on that i believe we need to focus on the concept that talking is the main focus of conduct and children who are honor roll students are being punished for talking in the cafeteria or the bathroom which neither has to do with the learning process.

    And actually to the other anonymous poster, no one was focusing on the point of the poor loss of life until you brought it up again and started attacking other posters - shame on you for hurting the teacher in a public forum.
     
  14. I am not the teacher in question. I stand by my remarks.
     
  15. KellBell

    KellBell Well-Known Member

    Anonymous Person (Teacher) from Dixon:

    I was one that commented on the OP's topic. And most of us are only disputing the policy about the tallie pulling effecting the ability to be on the Honor Roll.

    I know for a fact that my 5th grader has gotten tickets/tallies/strikes for talking in class, in line, and in the cafeteria. Now it may very well be back-talk, repetive talk, or just talk talk, but that is classified as disruptive, and therefore he pulls a tallie/ticket/strike.

    FWIW, I also asked my son, about the teacher that was called out about her miscarriage, and he isn't even in her class, and he knew about it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2008
  16. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Well obviously the following remark was wrong and if you had really read the post you would know that - i am not the parent of the child, i have never even laid eyes on the teacher and this child's parents do not even post on this board. As most regulars on this board are aware, my youngest child is in college and i stand by my remark, shame on you for putting the focus on that teacher's loss:


    5) If you truly wanted to know district policy, or school policy, all you needed to do was call. Be honest. You posted here bcause you wanted to hurt the adult who hurt your child's feelings. Mission accomplished.
     
  17. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    A chicken. bok bok bok
     
  18. OutdoorPlay

    OutdoorPlay Well-Known Member

    I think the miscarriage should have never been brought up in this post. We seem to have forgotten that the teacher is not a robot. She has feelings too. I think that schools even teach sex education earlier than when I was in school. I see cartoons now that I just think to myself what in the world is going on with the networks showing this type of cartoon to kids. So that being said a 5th grader can handle what a teacher could have said about a miscarriage.
    The real issue is the talking. From what I gathered from the posts is that rules are rules and they should be followed or there are consequences. Not putting your name on the honor roll is a better lesson than having to write a theme in my opinion.
     
  19. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member



    Teachers these days are less caring and full of themselves. Very condescending to parents. I had to straighten one out a few times but she finally learned. Kids teaching kids is bad. The teachers today care more about pay and not about accountability. That's another shame.
     
  20. KellBell

    KellBell Well-Known Member

    I be willing to bet you don't have kids.
     

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