Anyone know of a good Pediatrician that doesn't push vaccines?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by ItsallPolitical, Jul 9, 2008.


  1. Never used manure on my garden and it's purdy.
     
  2. Psycho

    Psycho Guest

    Yeh, and they invented the vaccines for a reason...I would say because of MORE DEATHS.....WOW, some people will believe anything they read :)
     
  3. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Actually it does mean just that. There is a vast amount of data on the subject and as a result there is a very clear answer to which is right and which is wrong on average. Does that mean there will never be a bad adverse reaction or perfect covereage by the vaccine? No, it does not. It does mean that for the vast majority of those who take the vaccine there will be no such reaction and there will be no disease in their future. If you want to concentrate on the anecdotal cases you are free to do so, but when you say your belief is as supported by thte facts as anyone who has their children vaccinated you are very wrong.

    Correct, as the incidences of childhood diseases prior to vaccinations and the negative impacts on the children are well known.

    Not for an idnidvidual child but for children as a whole they do. Just as you cannot know if you child will die if they contract one of the diseases you refeuse to provide vaccine coverage. You can assume the threat is low because most everyone else vaccinates their child, but you cannot know.

    Yes, they are and they are all based on faith. The situtation of which we discuss is based on science and that has hard evidence with which to work.

    Yes, and people have died as a result of eating peanuts and shellfish too, but to say those foods should be avoided without reason is not intelligent, especially if there were a risk of starvation if you did not consume those foods.

    Many, many more of the former than the latter.

    Yes, and that involves much more than reading the sensationalized web sites whose claims are not supported by anything other than their statements. Just as the claims of those Animal Rights supporters concerning the flaws surrounding medical research are unsupported by facts, they present them as if they were factual and hope the gullible will beleive their propaganda. The situtaion is very similar to what you have choesn to beleive.

    That is where we differ, I am concerned for the health and safety of your children and the children with which they may come into contact.

    I look at my job as being a little more broad and less self centered, but that is fine for you as long as you are comfortable.

    Then I will wish your children "good luck" as they may need it in the future.
     
  4. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I missed this part .... until now

    Ahh, not if they had vaccinated their child but the vaccine had not given 100% effective coverage. There might be some responsibility spread to the vaccine maker by the court but there would be a good case for depraved indifference by the parents not getting the vaccine.
     
  5. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that is true.
     
  6. colinmama

    colinmama Guest

    Well crap!! I was medically unable to breastfeed my child and had to feed him formula. Had I known it would have been better to put a little dog food in the blender for him I would have saved myself a bunch of money. Oh well...now I know for next time.
     
  7. Clif

    Clif Guest

    How do you know that? Considering the nutrients for humans and dogs are different, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to compare.

    Please site your source.
     
  8. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    Oh look a homophone. :)

    Anyways, I would like to see that source as well, but I don't think you will find it. And FWIW formula is regulated (not mandated), so that things like this don't happen in our country -

    Fake Milk Powder Causes Baby Death
    Counterfeit Market Thrives In China Despite Nationwide Crackdown

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/09/health/main622021.shtml

    This is also why programs like WIC exist, as well as breasfeeding education and support.
     
  9. mommyw2girls

    mommyw2girls Guest


    that's too funny!!!!! :lol: (about the dog food not breastfeeding)
     
  10. Clif

    Clif Guest

    I seem to be doing a lot of that lately.
     
  11. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    You are kidding right! We actually developed a program on how to feed folks in a small town in California! Damn, I knew the folks in California had problems, I just did not know how bad! :neutral:
     
  12. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    Nope. No kidding. There are actually many instances of this happening worldwide.
     
  13. kookookacho

    kookookacho Well-Known Member

    It's probably with the same research that taste test the dog food so they can label the brands that have the new and IMPROVED flavors.

    I've always wondered about that too myself.
     
  14. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    See, I always thought the proof was in the "pudding". :lol:
     
  15. Josey Wales

    Josey Wales Well-Known Member

    Being a vaccine conspiracy theorist is a luxury provided by the rest of us who vaccinate our kids.

    You're welcome.


    Have you ever seen a baby with a High Pro Glow? I rest my case.
     
  16. Clif

    Clif Guest

    My lord, he has a sense of humour! (At least I hope that was humour)
     
  17. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    This just in!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25621615/

    Measles outbreak hits 127 people in 15 states
    Caused by travelers infected overseas who returned to U.S. ill, CDC says


     
  18. Clif

    Clif Guest

    Curious... Just like school, to travel outside the US, you have to be vaccinated.
     
  19. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Not true again! Never asked when I go to Mexico or Canada!
     
  20. Josey Wales

    Josey Wales Well-Known Member

    Maybe when I get to 7,500 posts like the rest of you nerds, it will be more obvious. :lol:
     

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