Clayton High School Annouces New Start Time

It's simple why we can't buy more buses.....................$$$$$$

 

Move on by this one. My teen has practice before and after school, is in clubs, competition and keeps her grades up. The problem is they need some down time...even you can understand that...right.

Sure, we could take out the sport and just leave academics and the club or switch around but in my mind EVERYONE deserves some time to dance in the rain (if you get it...being a kid).

Gotta run to walmartS..see ya' there P.

Sherry

 

KDC don't you know that's the age old problem. Let's just buy this and that..it all sounds good on paper until the bill comes in and then the taxes go up.

Last year my middle school-er (will be freshman this year) bus came at 6:25. She got herself up and ready every morning without me getting her up. She didn't complain or anything. She did learn to adjust her schedule to fit her needs. She wanted to play volleyball this year, but has decided (own her own) that with her starting HS and being in honors classes that she needs to focus on academics only her freshman year and then see how sports and other activities play into it at a later date.

 

What a concept SB!! Sometimes you just have to make things work, we all do it in the adult world, I know some mornings I sure would like to stay in bed a little later, but that don't pay the bills.

Sorry, some of you, my sympathy is running a bit low these days. 8)

 

so drop everything but school if you don't have time for it all. make some choices. choose what's important, and let the other stuff go. ie, go to school, and quit the stupid club or football team if the kid can't hack both. or the parent, which actually sounds more like what the problem is here....

 

I know I'm just terrible ain't I??:lol:

 

My high school started at 7:10 and we were out at 2:20. That was great for me since I babysat after school for a family every day until 6pm, was president of 4 different clubs, activein the drama club (very time intensive!), and involved in church, piano lessons, and scouts. I got up at 4:45 am every day from November through April to make it to swim team practice for our high school team...we had to vacate the pool before ECU's swim team showed up for their early morning practice so ours started at 5:15am.

Was is fun in February being up that early? No. Did I "need more sleep" than younger kids? No more so than farm kids needed extra sleep 100 years ago. I didn't expect to watch the Tonight Show nor the 11 o'clock news. Bedtime was between 9-9:30. I was involved in sports and clubs and other activities, kept a straight A average (except for Calculus...) and had an after school job. Basically, no video games, computer, TV or phone calls until my work was done! I was a "normal" teen with lots of friends, going to games, hanging out, etc.

 

so where do you people keep getting this garbage about teens needing more sleep than elementary kids? somebody post a link, cuz i've been looking around google for like a half hour, and almost everything says something like this:

Kids ages 6 to 9 need about 10 hours of sleep a night. Bedtime difficulties can arise at this age from a child's need for private time with parents, without siblings around. Try to make a little private time just before bedtime and use it to share confidences and have small discussions, which will also prepare your child for sleep.

Children ages 10 to 12 need a little over 9 hours of shuteye a night. But it's up to parents to judge the exact amount of rest their children need and see that they're in bed in time for sufficient sleep.
Lack of sleep for kids can cause irritable or hyper types of behavior and can also make a condition like attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) worse.
Teens

Adolescents need about 8 to 9.5 hours of sleep per night, but many don't get it. And as they progress through puberty, teens actually need more sleep. Because teens often have schedules packed with school and activities, they're typically chronically sleep deprived (or lacking in a healthy amount of sleep).


http://kidshealth.org/parent/general/sleep/sleep.html

 

I have seen it in a number of places, but here is my first Google link and it points to the impact on school.

I think the teenagers need to get over it though, of course I never had any of my own.

http://parentingteens.about.com/cs/teensandsleep/a/teenssleepwell.htm

 

honestly, that's the first time i've seen a reference like that. there were boatloads that disagreed with that particular figure...i looked lots of links, but maybe my search terms weren't exactly what yours were...

 

Used the terms "Sleep" and "Teenagers" in that order.

I wish the damn search engines just knew what we wanted! :mrgreen:

 

db,

Sleep is just one part of the wheel but I have addressed in with a link below. Certainly, SB, brings up good points when talking about balancing academics with other activities but as a child grows older the work becomes more consuming in school. To get into college they must be well rounded so academics should be mixed with other items.

I just want my teen to be able to be a teenager. Heck, when I was in high school we didn't have the subjects my child has nor did we have all the testing. So, when changing the times at school to have teens go earlier it really messes up the whole wheel. Whether it be academics and family time or academics and sports. Maybe we should take a look at the accidents caused by these teens in vehicles, since they are tired. And yes I still think we will have to buy more buses.

Just my opinion and venting on this subject,
Sherry

Below is just one link on sleeping:

http://www.sleepfoundation.org/site/c.huIXKjM0IxF/b.2419127/k.9C6C/Sleep_and_Teens.htm

What does Teen Sleep have to do with School Start Times?

Is your brain still on the pillow when school starts?

If teens need about 9 1/4 hours of sleep to do their best and naturally go to sleep around 11:00 pm, one way to get more sleep is to start school later.

Teens' natural sleep cycle puts them in conflict with school start times. Most high school students need an alarm clock or a parent to wake them on school days. They are like zombies getting ready for school and find it hard to be alert and pay attention in class. Because they are sleep deprived, they are sleepy all day and cannot do their best.

Schools that have set later bell times find that students do not go to bed later, but get one hour more of sleep per school night, which means five hours more per week.

Enrollment and attendance improves and students are more likely to be on time when school starts. Parents and teachers report that teens are more alert in the morning and in better moods; they are less likely to feel depressed or need to visit the nurse or school counselor.

"It has been the single most significant thing we have done recently to improve student morale and attitudes."

-- Kenneth Dragseth, Superintendent, Edina, Minnesota

"Schedules should reflect a high value for learning."

-- Parent

The change is "really nice, because I feel ready to lear

 

I disagree with any statement of a "natural sleep cycle" for all teens. While some teens are seen as "morning" or "night" people, go back in time and you'll see that everyone got up with the sun and went to bed early. Don't let your teen get into the HABIT of staying up til eleven or later. Set a bedtime, stick to it...no lights on, no TV right before bed, no computer or video games to get the mind wired up. The brain can be trained to be on a set schedule. I know my husband used to have to switch from days to nights every 28 days. He did it by training his brain to switch over from staying up all day to staying up all night instead. (And completely changing a sleep cycle is more difficult than changing it by a few hours.)

 

jesus sherry it's only 15 minutes. stop making a mountain out of a molehill. back the wheel up 15 minutes = problem solved. keep stressing your entire life away over teeny tiny little things like a 15 minute change in your schedule, and you'll have a stroke and your kid will have ulcers.

when i worked late nights, or early *** mornings, people would ask me how the hell i kept such a schedule. answer? i sleep 8 hours a day just like everybody else, and in the big picture it doesn't really matter which 8....

 

So that new busses would not have to be puchased, they just altered the school times for all schools. It was to save money, but I bet they even out with gas prices.

For Sherry - http://www.4042.com/4042forums/showthread.php?t=18217&highlight=busses

There might be other threads, too.

 

This bears repeating.

And http://www.sleepeducation.com/Topic.aspx?id=42 for more info (ie: layman's terms)

The solution? Keep them active during the day, and institute a regular bedtime. I send my son to bed at 9PM on school nights, and he is out like a light.

 

I have a rising freshman who doesn't struggle with sleep problems like my older DS did when he was in HS. DS2 goes to bed, goes to sleep, gets up pretty easily. DS1 would go to bed and then toss and turn for hours. He never really complained about having to get up, because that's just the way it was, and he still had to go to school. We couldn't find an alarm clock that could wake that kid though.:lol:

 

Yes, db, fifteen minutes here and there does mean a lot. Let's say a teen gets out of school at 2:15 pm. (for the sake of argument our teen will not do anything but academics) The teen arrives home no later than 3:15 pm. The teen eats a snack...now we are at around 3:45 pm. Starts doing homework...4 subjects at 1 hour per subject...now we are at 7:45 pm. Let's stop around 6:00 pm to eat dinner with the family. Hopefully, dinner is an hour so now we are up to 8:45 pm. Take or not take a shower at night...Hum? Go ahead...for a girl one hour, boy thirty minutes. We are now going on 9:45 pm. Teen reads themselves to sleep... let's say 15 minutes. Okay, now we have a mark...the teen should be asleep every week night by 10:00 pm.

The bus arrives at 6:00 am every week morning for school. Hum, they took a shower last night so how about we get them up at 5:00 am so they can eat breakfast and get dressed.

We have 7 hours of sleep. Remember, that teen did not have any projects, did not talk on the telephone, did not watch television nor did that teen have anything extra other than academics. Now, remember the family had that wonderful 1 hour at dinner to talk. How sweet.

Whose family runs that way? Maybe some of the perfect parents on here but not my household or anyone I know in real life. Cleo can take us back to other Threads and SB can talk about straight As but in reality what family runs to those exact specs? Don't we owe our teens something better? I think so. Seems as though we came up with money to buy buses the last time, SB and KDC. What's the problem now?

Sherry


http://www.theherald-nc.com/education/story/7861.html

The board had approved a similar concept that affected only Clayton-area schools last August, but reversed the decision two days later when county commissioners told the school system to buy the 22 buses needed out of the utilities budget.

Parents had said that the decision, which came less than two weeks before school was to start, didn’t allow them enough time to adjust childcare schedules. Parents and owners of businesses such as dance schools and swim classes said the change to school hours hurt after-school activities.

 

Gee Grace, I don't know. Fuel is now over $4.00 a gallon for those buses. Could that be an issue? I am also unwilling to pay any more taxes, I am barely keeping my head above water as it is. You might be able to **** money, but I can't and I doubt the school board can either.

 

When I was in HS, the marching band met at 6 or 6:30am instead of in the afternoon. And in the afternoon, I had swimteam practice. I think the fact that my parents had set and enforced bedtimes for us kids played a role in us being able to get up and function throughout the day. Plus it gave them time alone in the evenings, kid-free.