The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza notes that an ad proclaiming "McCain wins debate!" was already running on the Wall Street Journal's Web site Friday morning. (A screen shot of the page can be seen here.) The reader who tipped Cillizza also saw a second ad that contained a quote from McCain campaign manager Rick Davis: "McCain won the debate -- hands down." Kind of makes the "Suspend the campaign" and that he will pass on the debate seem a little fabricated.
Depends on what he was debating about. Perhaps it was a debate about bran-cereal vs a spoon of metamucel.
:lol::lol: Oh my gosh, where have you been hiding all these years, Rich? I'm sooooo glad you came on board here! Bran cereal vs Metamucel... :lol:
Do you honestly think that Obama doesn't have the exact same stuff lined up for the next morning-already pre-fabricated. Just add water. Oh, PLEASE! Sounds like someone jumped the gun, but no-one pulls press releases out of their hind end.
kinda like the super bowl hats and shirts that are pulled out after the game ends... They are all ready ahead of time!!
Remember, supposedly until a few hours ago, he wasn't even going to participate. This just highlghts that the "campain suspension" was a fabracation for a desperate campain.
OR................JUST MAYBE........................the stuff was made up days BEFORE all this crap came down. Gee, how long has the debate been scheduled?????? But go ahead, think the worst of him. It'll be OK.
Or perhaps the whole "debate ad" story is just a fabrication so the news media can help the leftys. I smell a Dan Rather in here somewhere.
Personally I am not voting for the best debater. I will vote for the one that I believe will be the best leader.
A funny thing occurred to me while reading through this thread and some of the other political threads. Some of the same folks who keep saying how predictable the liberals are, are the same ones who keep riding to the rescue of the maverick.
I'm sure that they have them ready way ahead of time for both parties. As pointed out earlier, just like the super bowl or world series. I truely hate election time. It seems to be all about assigning blame and not taking responsibility for your own screw ups. It's all about putting down the other guy, blaming the other guy, making the other guy look bad. If you believe all the ads, they all suck! Mike
Mike, I don't believe any of the ads and I think they all suck. We've boiled it down to a choice between the lesser of evils. Good people, the real leaders we need, don't want to get in this arena because of the crappola they have to become, in order to become elected.
Yeah Hat, I gotta agree with you. I think one must compromise ones soul to enter that field. It's not worth the lose of integrity that a true leader must possess. Mike
I don't think that the undecided voters learned anything new. I didn't hear any out of the park home runs, or any SC beauty contestant rambling answers. I did hear some thigns that later were verified, to my mind, as I had thought, not as I heard.
This is why I'm waiting for the VP debates. I can see the headlines now, "Thrilla from Wasilla not so stable at the table!"
I thought Obama won the debate, but I could be just a tiny bit biased. I heard one snap poll right after, of undecided voters. I think 40% thought Obama won, 22% thought McCain won, and 38% thought it was a tie.
I heard similar stats this morning on CBS. I saw a little of the debate (I've already made up my mind before this) and I didn't feel any substance to what little I heard from Obama. Like yourself, I'm probably a little biased myself. Mike
Facts muddled in Mississippi McCain-Obama meeting. Summary McCain and Obama contradicted each other repeatedly during their first debate, and each volunteered some factual misstatements as well. Here’s how we sort them out: Obama said McCain adviser Henry Kissinger backs talks with Iran “without preconditions,” but McCain disputed that. In fact, Kissinger did recently call for “high level” talks with Iran starting at the secretary of state level and said, “I do not believe that we can make conditions.” After the debate the McCain campaign issued a statement quoting Kissinger as saying he didn’t favor presidential talks with Iran. Obama denied voting for a bill that called for increased taxes on “people” making as little as $42,000 a year, as McCain accused him of doing. McCain was right, though only for single taxpayers. A married couple would have had to make $83,000 to be affected by the vote, and anyway no such increase is in Obama’s tax plan. McCain and Obama contradicted each other on what Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen said about troop withdrawals. Mullen said a time line for withdrawal could be “very dangerous” but was not talking specifically about “Obama’s plan,” as McCain maintained. McCain tripped up on one of his signature issues – special appropriation “earmarks.” He said they had “tripled in the last five years,” when in fact they have decreased sharply. Obama claimed Iraq “has” a $79 billion surplus. It once was projected to be as high as that. It’s now down to less than $60 billion. McCain repeated his overstated claim that the U.S. pays $700 billion a year for oil to hostile nations. Imports are running at about $536 billion this year, and a third of it comes from Canada, Mexico and the U.K. Obama said 95 percent of “the American people” would see a tax cut under his proposal. The actual figure is 81 percent of households. Obama mischaracterized an aspect of McCain’s health care plan, saying “employers” would be taxed on the value of health benefits provided to workers. Employers wouldn’t, but the workers would. McCain also would grant workers up to a $5,000 tax credit per family to cover health insurance. McCain misrepresented Obama's plan by claiming he'd be "handing the health care system over to the federal government." Obama would expand some government programs but would allow people to keep their current plans or chose from private ones, as well. McCain claimed Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower had drafted a letter of resignation from the Army to be sent in case the 1944 D-Day landing at Normandy turned out to be a failure. Ike prepared a letter taking responsibility, but he didn’t mention resigning. For full details, as well as other dubious claims and statements, please read our full Analysis section. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/factchecking_debate_no_1.html
