The truth about Islam

If I remember right, I took a poll and the majority believed with me that Santa Claus is real. I guess you're just mad because you were shown to be wrong.

Let's not make this small, or are you embarrassed by it?

Like you, I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe he lives and affects my life in ways you could not begin to comprehend. However, for some reason, although you believe in Jesus Christ, you do not believe in Santa Claus like I do (as well as many others on this board and elsewhere). Why this is, I do not know. Perhaps he has stopped bringing you presents and so you are angry. Perhaps your parents lied and told you they made him up. Once again, perhaps you are angry over the lie. (It also begs the question, what would you do if they told you Jesus did not exist?) Perhaps your denial of Santa is your way of feeling superior, sort of like the atheists declaring that only fools and morons believe in God as their way of exhibiting some belief of superiority.

Whatever the reason, I feel sorry for your loss of the childhood that grown ups need to remain sane in this crazy world. Based on your posts of the last few months, I think you need Santa Claus. You have become much too morose and saturnine. You have lost something and I don't think you will find it here until you lighten up a bit.

 

I am confused... How do you believe in Santa vs others on the board?

 

Oh, I believe in the others on the board as well.

Over the past few years, around Christmas time, I post a poll asking, "Do you believe in Santa Claus?", not meaning "The Spirit of Santa Claus" or some bishop that lived several hundred years ago, but the real guy who lives up in the North Pole, reindeer, elves, toy shop, etc., etc.

Suprising to me (I thought I was in the miniority), the "Yes" votes outnumber the "No" votes, although last year it was pretty close, and the "No" votes were in the lead for a while.

To tell you the truth, though, it's a little to far away from Christmas to be talking about this.

 

Just seen this story on Drudge. Relates to the hate groups that I mentioned earlier. This happen in London of all places. "Man shot three times in street by racist gunman - for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt". Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ist-gunman--wearing-Barack-Obama-T-shirt.html

 

Very unlikely. Pelosi would only be eligible if there was no Vice President in place. In the event Obama/Biden died, a new VP would be appointed and confirmed by Congress in just a matter of days. So there would be a very small window of opportunity where both the President and VP would have to die.

 

I also am not sticking my head in the sand on this, I just don't care to see it. I think it is kind of a perverse pornography for some twisted folks, a few weeks ago one of Ready"s videos tried to tie Obama to this and spent three minutes of planes repeatedly crashing into the buildings over and over one right after the other from every angle they could find. I was literally ill after watching it, and more hardining in my position in this election.

Mom, I appreciate your efforts to take the high road!

Thank you!

 

I don't even click on her links any more, for that reason.

 

Everyone who doesn't agree with Clif and is reading his posts about Santa and shaking their head about his radical thinking is how I feel reading all of Ready's radical anti-Islam, Muslim, Obama posts. And I'll be the first to say that Clif brings alot onto himself (ok, more than alot), but if I made a "do you believe Obama is the anti-christ" poll, which would be mocking Ready, it wouldn't go over so well.

 

I don't think anyone enjoys watching those planes crash into the World Trade Center towers but the fact is IT HAPPENED and it was because of RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS! I'm sorry if everything isn't pie-in-the-sky-happy-days-will-never-end for me when it comes to the world of politics, but I live in the real world. A world where real people practicing a real form of religion pose a real threat to my country. If there is a chance that a person who is running for the most powerful position in this country is associated IN ANY WAY to ANY of those groups, be it the black radical Muslim groups or the Middle Eastern radical groups, then I want to know about it... and I will do my part to tell others about it. So forgive me if something I posted offended some of you liberals, but I will not be bullied by you into not doing what I think is right about this. Y'all can feel free to put me on ignore, it won't hurt my feelings one single little bit.

 

Ready, do you really think I need a reminder on 911? Do you really think anyone over the age of 15 needs a reminder? I think your hatred has gotten out of control (one fundamentalist against another).

 

This was written over 5 years ago. Has any of it come to pass?
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[SIZE=-1]Posted: August 04, 2003[/SIZE]

A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam's 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 – a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Anis Shorrosh, author of ''Islam Revealed'' and ''The True Furqan,'' is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.

''The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,'' Shorrosh says. ''Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?''

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards.
Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

• Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961).

• Use no birth control whatsoever – every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

• Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years – since one can't legally marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

• Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2,000 released inmates have joined al-Qaida worldwide). Only a few ''sleeper cells'' have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil.

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

''The True Furqan'' is also available for viewing on Islam-Exposed.org. Shorrosh's new website is Focusing-on-Islam.com.

 

Hell yeah, NEVER FORGET. we as a nation grew complacent after the first hit on the trade center probably a lot of people never remembered that one or even cared. Now I hope they do.

 

Both true statements. However, none of that has one whit to do with Mr. Obama.

No matter how you want to phrase it, Mr. Obama is not a Muslim, radical or otherwise. He has no association with the evil men who conspired or committed the heinous deeds against the United States of America.

The fact that someone else called Mr. Obama a Muslim does not make him a Muslim any more than my calling you a Hindu makes you a Hindu.

Would you please stop your fear mongering?

YOU'RE NOT HELPING!!!

 

Cliff... Santa Claus





Question - Could it be that God Himself is trying to talk to this hard headed country through pastors like Dr. David Jeremiah?
http://www.lightsource.com/ministry/turning_point/

 

No, I'm not Snta Claus, but thank you for the compliment.