How about this for a 1st grade field trip

In the Bible Jews and Gentiles are metioned about marriage but this was not meaning "color" but it meant believers vs. unbeliveres.

 

Actually, that video was a Tony Perkins commercial, all about how dangerous it is to the institution of marriage to allow same sex couples to marry. Next, I expect him to try to outlaw divorce, since that is really harmful to marriage.

 

You do not have Internet access at home? The videos will still be there.

 

Ok you asked... So hereeeee you go!

Ephesians 5 : 23 - 33
22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."[c] 32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

1 Peter 3: 1-7
1Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. 4Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight. 5For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to make themselves beautiful. They were submissive to their own husbands, 6like Sarah, who obeyed Abraham and called him her master. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not give way to fear.
7Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.

1 Corinthians 7 : 1-9
1Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.[a] 2But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband. 3The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife. 5Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
8Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

10To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

 

So where do we sign up for the protests against divorce?

 

Well if talking about The Bible then it says only thru infidelity can someone divorce... although I am far from perfect and thankfully married to my one and hopefully ONLY husband (no infedility either LOL) but, I have to say getting a divorce is no worst than lying and stealing or other sins. If the man or woman cheats on you then it is "OK" for a divorce Biblically speaking.

 

I would agree that getting a divorce is not worse than lying and stealing or other sins. I don't think we can "rank" sins as more or less serious than other sins. I just do not believe that everything that is a sin should be against the law. I do not see how some other couple's relationship with each other has any effect on my relationships, and vice versa. I think there are a lot more serious things to be concerned about than same sex marriage.

 

I agree with you that we have a lot of things that are more serious in the world! I personally do not agree with gay marriages and think it is not "right" but I really do not care if they do get married. I do not have to support them, live with them, or anything like this. It is not my business that is why I said I teach tolerance but I will not support a teacher's marriage that is gay. I will support them with school supplies and my help at the school.... just care 2 cents about their marriage.

 

I'm sorry, but I have a life. I only play on 4042 at work in between projects.

 

899 posts since July? Sure must not have many projects at work. :lol:

 

Not really right now. I did have a project that I thought would last at least through Halloween, but I was able to complete it early.

 

Did you see or agree with my post? The one where you asked about The Bible and how it mentions Man/Woman or husband and wife?

 

It doesn't mention only man and woman. In fact did you see my post where it says "all"?

Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."
Hebrews 13:1-4

I do have to point out, though (and in spite of the fact that I used one myself), that I don't consider the Epistles as the word of God. They are opinions of men who are subject to personal prejudices.

 

I take that IN ALL as meaning not just the man but the woman too (and vice versa) because every example I gave shows husband and wife when relating to marriage???

 

Therein lies the problem. It's your opinion of the scripture.

I see, and what if a "wife" is male or a "husband" is female?

 

LOL
Are you actually serious with that comment? Or are you just trying to be the person to say "What if"... I think even our non believers on here would probably say (again I said I THINK) that God means WIFE - WOMAN and HUSBAND mean MAN.... Especially after he gave a WOMAN to Adam and said that would be his partner...

 

Jesus' own words on marriage and divorce

Matthew 19 NIV

1When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. 3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"
4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."
7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"
8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."
11Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

Footnotes:

1. Matthew 19:4 Gen. 1:27
2. Matthew 19:5 Gen. 2:24
3. Matthew 19:12 Or have made themselves eunuchs

 

Thanks Ready! I was about to list Matthew 19 also!!!

 

More or less, yeah. The fact of the matter is, you really don't know what was intended, all you know is what you read and was you're told. In either case, the Bible was not written in english, so the words "husband" and "wife" were never in the original script.

You know the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill"? In reality the translation is a lot closer to "Thou shalt not murder". How do you know that instead of what we would define as "husband" and "wife" aren't actually more correctly translated as "greatr spouse" and "lesser spouse"?

Adam and Eve were not meant as an example of husband and wife, they were examples of father and mother.

 

Kind of funny how the words are "man and wife", and not "husband and wife" or better yet "man and woman", idnit?

Are you sure the origial text that was eventually translated to "wife" is exactly "female spouse"?