Police stopping for license checks on Raleigh Road

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by blessed2adopt2, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. Sherry A.

    Sherry A. Well-Known Member

    I beg to differ...I could be on my way to dinner with Bon Jovi and don't want to be late................:jester:

    Sherry
     
  2. joco_leo

    joco_leo Guest

    Kind of how you assumed that they were all stopping "hot" blondes, eh?
     
  3. joco_leo

    joco_leo Guest

    Citizens Arrest away.... and prepare to get laughed off the phone.
     
  4. Sherry A.

    Sherry A. Well-Known Member

    Never said the word "hot" but believe as you want too.

    Sherry
     
  5. joco_leo

    joco_leo Guest

    lol. pfft
     
  6. Sherry A.

    Sherry A. Well-Known Member

    Using "The Mayberry scenario was a joke. Too bad you don't understand.

    How funny, :lol:
    Sherry
     
  7. Sherry A.

    Sherry A. Well-Known Member

    Careful, your responses are beginning to wear on me. Seems you know alot about people on here but time will tell, if my logic is correct.

    Dead end,
    Sherry
     
  8. joco_leo

    joco_leo Guest

    Awww, isn't that sweet. Bless your heart.
     
  9. colinmama

    colinmama Guest

    I smell a Stinger accusation coming...
     
  10. colinmama

    colinmama Guest

    No, this is what you said. I'm still scratching my head over how you knew the rest of those women were intelligent......

     
  11. CrazyFabulous

    CrazyFabulous Well-Known Member

    surprised it hasnt come up before now....
     
  12. michelle

    michelle Well-Known Member

    :popcorn: :cheers:
     
  13. seabee

    seabee Guest

    Ha Ha Ha that was funny...
     
  14. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I am confused. "No" indicates a disagreement, but then you post t quote that confirms the original statement. Are you agreeing or disagreeing? :confused: If it is the former why the "no" and if the latter why not post a quote to support that disagreement? :confused:
     
  15. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    "The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has concluded, after numerous field studies, that the number of DUI arrests made by roving patrols is nearly three times the average number of DUI arrests made by officers at a sobriety checkpoint."

    You do have rights when they stop you. Just because the Supreme Court gave them the right to unwarranted checkpoints they do have to follow the guidelines of the Courts allowance. It's up to you to show that a badge and a uniform do not intimidate a law abiding citizen.

    If you have a video camera in the car, place it on the dash running. Have the volume on high. I bought a cheap used one and it stays in my glove compartment. If you are arrested call family or a friend to come get the camera immediately. It's a good idea to call someone anyway and leave the phone operating on the seat as you approach the checkpoint.

    1. They must have a predetermined plan for stopping vehicles. If there is any deviation from the predetermined plan for stopping vehicles, it should be time documented, and the reason for the deviation (i.e., traffic backing up, poor weather) given.

    Watch the numbers of cars being stopped in the line. If you approach and the sequencing changes, ask the officer for the plan.

    2. The selection of checkpoints must be done in the interest of public safety and chosen for a specific objective (i.e., high amount of drunken driving accidents in the area.)

    If you are not allowed to proceed, ask the officer for the selection specifics.

    3. There must be existing departmental policy on how to properly conduct a sobriety checkpoint.

    If you are not allowed to proceed, ask for the policy.

    Do not answer any questions which are ambiguous, like, "Have you been drinking?" To answer anything other than yes is a lie. If you don't drink you die??? Ask the officer to be specific and to the point. And above all do not answer any question you feel may be incriminating.

    The officer may ask to search your car. This means they do not have legal grounds to search your car, and you may refuse this request. If you are ordered out of your vehicle, lock the door behind you. If you are asked to perform a field sobriety test, you may refuse. These are the tests where you are required to walk in a straight line, touch your nose or recite the alphabet. If you refuse to take these tests, the officer will have one less reason for arresting you should it result in a DUI charge.

    The officer may ask you to take a breath alcohol test to determine your blood alcohol content level. You can refuse this test, but the consequences for refusing are almost as severe as a DUI charge. You can ask for a more conclusive blood test in lieu of the breath alcohol test. It's rarely allowed so get a witness to your request; this can help if you know you’re not drunk but did drink that day. If you are arrested, complain of chest pains and an inability of breathing and request that you be brought to a hospital. Have blood taken.

    The fact that well over half of these checkpoints only produce a fines revenue in lieu of actual DUI arrest proves they are being miss-used in the United States. Eleven States have made them justifiably illegal.
     
  16. seabee

    seabee Guest

    oh you nit picker....
     
  17. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    No, I am .... :jester:
     
  18. joco_leo

    joco_leo Guest

    I would study real hard before taking ddrdan's advice on this. Anyone who drinks and thinks that they want to risk driving should brush up on the law a little bit in terms of what the testing means. In addition, you CAN be compelled to be tested by an officer under certain circumstances whether you want to or not. If those particular circumstances don't exist, you absolutely have the right to refuse any and all testing. Keep in mind that each refusal can and will be used against you and I have convicted many a drunk without a single test.

    when i stop a driver, I document everything from the time of the stop until such time as I take my defendant before the magistrate. I document every move you make, every word you utter. I document everything I smell, everything I see in plain view and with search incident to arrest. I document how you talk, the condition of your eyes, the way you're dressed, the time I read you your rights and every question I ask. I document everything not only on paper, but I have video of every second from beginning to end. It'll take a lot more then refusing a test to get away with driving drunk.

    If you guys want to know more about this stuff, brush up on implied consent laws in NC. Of course, none of you here drive drunk anyways, so you really have nothing to worry about ;)
     
  19. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    From these statistics you must be the only one getting convictions.

    http://www.wral.com/news/local/wral_investigates/story/2928873/

    Smithfield, N.C. — Drunken-driving charges are dismissed twice as often in Johnston County as in most other North Carolina counties, according to state records, prompting a call from authorities for change.

    Forty-six percent of the driving while impaired charges filed in Johnston County in 2006, the latest year for which records are available, were dismissed, according to the Administrative Office of Courts. Statewide, the dismissal rate for DWI charges is 21 percent. In neighboring Wake County, the dismissal rate is 20 percent.

    When acquittals and pleas to reduced charges are factored in, the actual DWI conviction rate in Johnston County is about 27 percent, state records show.
     
  20. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    My advice was meant for those not driving drunk or those who know that not 'all' police officers are honorable in their efforts. You know, the ones who hand out vehicle violations at sobriety stops. You should also assert your rights in a respectful manner. I should have stated that in the post. I respect the honest officers for the work they do and I'm thankful of their duty in keeping me safe.

    In the same concept as you following the procedures for investigation the driver should also be aware of their rights and apply them at all cost. And, if you are not following the policies of the law it is their responsibility to see that you are cited. There are unlawful citations being given every day. It may be a very very small percentage, but everyone should know how to protect themselves from that chance.

    Every time you pull someone over you have the upper hand in knowledge of the law. Don't you think it's fair that law abiding citizens be aware of the hazards in their lack of that very same knowledge?

    I'm all for helping you remove every drunk driver from the road. I was in a head-on collision with a drunk driver and it killed my best friend. I'm OK with the stops as long as it's done to the limits of the law. Sometimes it's trolling for all violations, and that can't be allowed.

    I've been thru a few stops and all of them where done correctly. Once I even had an expired inspection and the officer gave me a verbal warning. I had it inspected that day. That's the way it should work, but it doesn't always go that way.

    I'm sure you've been in court many many times. Who walks and who pays on DUI charges? Those with money for top lawyers walk and those without get convicted. Until the system changes that, your hard work is in vain and the results are unjust. And all the checkpoint stops in the country won't help that.
     

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