NC Smoking Ban. Good or bad?

Im never gonna get 2 come out of the bathroom at this point!

 

So how will this affect Cleveland Draft House? Can they continue to have smoking on one side as long as no one under the age of 18 is admitted and non-smoking on the other side? Or would it have to be 2 separate buildings to have both smoking and non smoking for the same restaurant?

 

i may be wrong but i think i heard that as long as there is a door separating the rooms it should be ok. i do feel sorry for the small businesses that do not have the money to sink into remodeling to stay legal though.

 

Honestly, unless there are two separate air handling systems the concept of "smoking" and "non-smoking" sections within a building are nothing but wishful thinking based on the wish to continue to allow exposure without consequenses. The impact of indoor air quality, including smoke, is significant especially to juveniles.

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/news/20070212/secondhand-smoke-hurts-heart

There is new evidence directly linking exposure to secondhand smoke with an increased risk for heart disease.

Even low-level indirect exposure to cigarette smoke was associated with a significant rise in heart disease risk in the research conducted by researchers from the U.K.'s University of Nottingham.

The study is the first to directly measure secondhand smoke exposure through levels of a nicotine byproduct in the blood. Previous studies have relied on participants' recall of exposure.

Compared with people in the study with no detectable exposures to nicotine, those with low- and high exposure levels also had significantly higher levels of two important markers of heart disease risk.

 

As long as they carry enough insurance to cover the claims of long term health damage for the lifepsan of every person who frequents their establishment, it should be fine. Of course knowing the working s of risk management in such cases that coverage would not be very practical to obtain.

 

I am smoking PERIOD! :twisted:

 

Such a liberal comment....right on cue.

 

Random thought - An exclamation mark looks like a smoking period, well at least it does when your eyes can't seem to stay open.

 

Having insurance is a liberal position? I suppose that would be so if one had no concept of anything more complex than "this good" or "that bad" based on antiquated narrow minded personal beliefs.

 

:hurray::hurray::hurray:

 

I know, it's WAYYY past my bedtime.
Ran out of ML's and drinking Bud :ack::ack::ack:



OR, we could all be on our period tomorrow. :lol:


How fun!

Poor Hught, nite nite old timer. LOL

 

LOL... ok hughey don't try to be to serious with that avatar your sporting.. it'll clash like gas and water... :jester::jester:

 

OR oil and water? :lol:

I like it!

 

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-hepa-filter.htm

In World War II the Atomic Energy Commission needed a filter to protect researches from radioactive dust particles that might present a health hazard to them. The HEPA filter was born. It traps particles as tiny as .3 microns with an efficiency rating of 99.97%.

To give you an idea of the size of a micron, it takes 25,400 microns to equal 1 inch (2.54 cm). Conversely, 4/100,000ths of an inch equals one micron. In metric terms, a single micron is 1 millionth of a meter.

A particle of 10 microns is invisible to the naked eye. Pollen ranges between 5-100 microns. Human hair between 70-100 microns.

How many facilities with a smoking/non-smoking section have you seen with HEPA or better filtration on their HVAC system to remove the particles of tobacco smoke from the air it handles and moves to every part of the building it covers? Or do they have a lot of the cheap filters you can see through, but that still get clogged enough to reduce efficiency of the system in a couple of months?

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/particle-sizes-d_934.html

Rosin Smoke 0.01 - 1

Combustion 0.01 - 0.1

Smoke from Natural Materials 0.01 - 0.1

Burning Wood 0.2 - 3

Coal Flue Gas 0.08 - 0.2

Oil Smoke 0.03 - 1

Tobacco Smoke 0.01 - 4

 

Alright I stand corrected by you... :jester:

oh I like it also but it doesn't fit serious... :lol:

 

As I have said before, every time this has come up.

The government has no right to prevent me from allowing a legal activity to go on in my place of business. There is no other legal activity that is banned. Regulated, yes, but not banned.

If non-smokers want a smoke free restaurant, there are many to choose from. There is no reason why they should visit my particular place.

I am a non-smoker myself (since 10/16/2007) and I find that since I quit, I do not like smoke filled rooms. However, my own preferences should not be used to force others to cater to me.

If you want smoking made illegal, pass a law to do so, don't just make laws to inconvenience smokers or turn them into pariahs.

 

I have to disagree with the "all or nothing" view because if smoking is banned in a certain area it is no longer a legal action there. Sex is a legal action, yet you will be arrested for performing such acts in your local restaraunt. Smoking will still be legal in some places just not as many. The limitations on location are common with many things other than smoking.

 

what happens?

To places like The Clubhouse Restaurant and Bar. We eat there as a family alot, no I do not love the smoke, but we are not there long and the food is good and cheap. Kid friendly (as far as casual dress, load noise). How will the law affect them? Will they just serve over 18 now or go to food only during certain times?

 

I agree with this and with Kaci's post.

 

I'm sick of the government tellin me what to do! PERIOD!