NC Smoking Ban. Good or bad?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Salvation, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    i was talking to some folks who moved here from a non-smoking place and they said it was awful having to walk through all the smoke to get to the front entrance and butts were everywhere:?
     
  2. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member

    Try putting a storage building less than 10 feet from the property line, or somewhere besides back of your house.....or have more than one unlicensed car on your property that doesn't run....those are just a couple of examples. There's a whole book of regulations for your private property in Johnston County.
     
  3. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest

    But it's common sense to not allow harmful substances in public places. Second hand smoke has been proven to be such a substance. Of course, I'm looking at this from simply a health standpoint rather than a government one, which seems to be what people are arguing because they can't argue it's not harmful to other people's health because it is.
     
  4. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    And yet they are not always enforced. A waste of time, effort, and taxpayer money.
     
  5. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member


    Oh snap...now someone will come up with it would just be common sense to ban all smoking more than 50 ft from a private dwelling!!!! :)
     
  6. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    I do agree with your health standpoint. I just don't agree with govt mommying. I also think people can protect themselves and be considerate of others. Fantasizing, I know. ;)
     
  7. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member


    But still there to tell you what you can do with your private property.
     
  8. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    No, they'll just make flame retardent smokes. I don't know how, but they will. And they will cost five times as much. :lol:
     
  9. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    And I don't agree with that either. You know I don't! Pleasantville, here we come.
     
  10. seabee

    seabee Guest


    Ok ok don't get testy with me... :jester: you know how I roll... along side you... :cheers::cheers:
     
  11. RealityCheck

    RealityCheck Well-Known Member

    ....and of course at some point the government will need to come in and take any children under the age of 18 out of your house if you smoke. Because afterall....it is always for the children!!
     
  12. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    :lol::lol::lol::cheers::cheers:
     
  13. gcoats3

    gcoats3 Well-Known Member

    Well he knows how I feel. I have previously contacted him. A vote against this is not smart for David. Maybe all he wants is one term in the senate.
     
  14. Hatteras6

    Hatteras6 Well-Known Member

    The state already legislates private businesses for public concerns. Building codes, handicap access, etc.

    Should a private restaurant business owner be allowed to do as he pleases?

    Suppose a private restaurant owner decides that the laws requiring hand washing after a food preparer or server uses the bathroom takes too much time away from their jobs. You "private business" advocates would then support his telling his employees that, as a private business he can choose to have them ignore it? Don't think so. If the lack of sanitation affects the public health, then the state has a right to regulate it.

    Can a private business owner choose to ignore building codes? So you walk into the bathroom and get shocked because the electrical connections are ungrounded. You're OK with that?

    Your favorite greasy spoon private restaurant has no working fire alarms, or fire suppression systems or extinguishers. Your family member, enjoying thier right to a private place gets hurt in a fire. You're OK with that?

    Simply, where a place is in business, the state has the responsibility to regulate issues that affect the public.

    In your own home, affecting only yourself, do as you please. In public, if you actions adversely affect me, be prepared to modify your choices.
     
  15. Hatteras6

    Hatteras6 Well-Known Member

    As did we, supporting the ban. Politics as usual.
     
  16. VolleyGirl

    VolleyGirl Guest


    :hurray::cheers:
     
  17. GoWulfpack

    GoWulfpack Guest

    boo freakin hoo
     
  18. GoWulfpack

    GoWulfpack Guest



    Look...all of your points make sense but the line in the sand has to be drawn somewhere. There is a time and a place for government regulation but not here. If the food sucks, I don't go back. If the prices are too high I don't go back. If the service blows I don't go back. If it's too smokey I either leave or don't come back. All of those decisions should be made by the consumer otherwise known as personal freedoms.

    I don't need the government deciding how and where I should spend my money. The idiotic state, local and federal governments waste more money than anyone and now they are going to tell me how I should spend mine?

    Puhlease...
     
  19. tassy

    tassy Well-Known Member

    I guess thats why they have the restriction where you can't smoke within so many feet of an entrance or exit in Massachusetts. Alot of smokers are nothing but litterbugs... look how many flip them out car windows and litter the roads.... sorry, one of my bigger pet peeves.
     
  20. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    hey if you ever saw the ashtray in my car you would know i never through them out the window and when i put them out on the sidewalk or something, i pick up the butt and drop in the nearest trashcan (i know i know a smoker with one of your same pet peeves:lol:)
     

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