NC Smoking Ban. Good or bad?

and I report every single one I see thump one out the window. damn skippy.....


http://www.ncdot.org/doh/Operations/dp_chief_eng/roadside/Beautification/Litterbug/salform.html

 

:hurray::hurray:

 

:lol:

 

Actually from a personal level, I think that is a great idea.

However, just because I would love it, doesn't mean it should be that way.

 

Eleven pages and no one has answered my question from page 2 yet:

"How are us guys supposed to be able to tell who the loose women are, if those women can't smoke in public"???? I mean, it is the weekend and we need to know!!!

:idea:
Guess I'll have to go back to counting how many rings they wear on their hands....

 

I like that one too! :mrgreen:

 

Not a problem for me until about a 1/2 hour after eating.

Ever been on a really long flight and notice that change in the atmosphere about 15 minutes after they collect the utensils?

 

:ack:

 

I have heard the number of tatoos is a good indicator especially if coupled with certain piercings, but I may have heard wrong.

 

UPDATE:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4884506/

Some business owners say limited smoking ban is unfair

Posted: Today at 11:26 a.m.
Updated: Today at 6:29 p.m.

RALEIGH, N.C. — Restaurant and bar owners whose businesses don't qualify for an exemption in a proposed smoking ban said Friday that they will fight the measure, up to filing a lawsuit in federal courts.

"The bill in its current form is a very bad bill and very unfair," said Richard Gussler, owner of The Players' Retreat in Raleigh.

The state House of Representatives on Thursday passed an amended H.B. 2, which would ban smoking in all workplaces where children are permitted. Businesses that admit only adults could allow smoking if they post signs advertising that.
Gussler said that the ban would create unfair competition against his tavern, which has served parents and their children and hosted kids' birthday parties since the 1950s. He said he's installed devices to filter out secondhand smoke.

"This has always been a family place, but if I chose to keep it a family place (with) no smoking, I don't think I can survive being in business," he said.

Gussler said that he and other restaurant owners have thought about pursuing a federal lawsuit against the bill if it passes, but all means of fighting it are still on the table.

Cigar-bar owner Brian Amra said that a blanket smoking ban would have forced him to close Amra's Stogies & Spirits, but he called the amended bill simply the lesser of two evils.

"How can they regulate free will?" Amra asked. "I'm not arrogant enough to think I can tell people where they can smoke and where they can't."

An adults-only venue such as Ess Lounge and Nightclub could benefit from the reduced competition, but owner Marlane Kintworth said she still has reservations about the smoking ban and its exemption.

"I don't know that it would be fair for all the bars that would be affected," Kintworth said.

The bill has moved to the state Senate.

 

Grabbing one or two handfuls of breast always works. If you don't find yourself flat on your back she is probably pretty loose!

 

Assuming there ARE two handfuls available, which may not always be the case ...... :evil:

 

I am a ex smoker that prefers non smoking restaurants. Very few that have smoking and non smoking sections don't work. Take Cracker Barrell in Smithfield. Smoking section is front section. You have to walk through to get to non smoking sections. Seems there is a older lady sitting next to the isle every time we go there. No need to complain to home office. They refer complaint back to local management and nothing is ever done. Cashiers tell us they hear this complaint daily. I guess the older lady is a fixture there and can't walk to the back.
PS You better not try the handful test if boy friend close by.

 

Now thats funny

Yall are messed up. At least you make me Laugh. Thanks.
Hey i agree with Harley Girl. I am a Smoker and that is what I chose to do. No I don't smoke around Children, Even though I don't like the Creatures.. OOPS another can of worms.
Sorry but i don't like small children. but that is just me.
at least I don't get called to baby sit. LOL.
But No ,I respect others wishes not to smoke. But Respect my wishes to smoke also. I don't smoke in my house, I smoke out side. rain,sleet or snow.
But the respect has to run both ways. and resistance is Futile. Borg thinking. LOL
OK give it back. But Remember I still Love ya'll

 

Is it logical to presume that you have no children? If so, then I'm not sure you entirely understand the concerns about developing lungs.

You indicate that you don't smoke inside your own home. May I ask why not?

Seems to me that you're saying it's all about you and your privacy, which I support in your own home. If the stench of smoke is the reason you don't smoke inside your home, why should it be permissible to smoke in a poublic place where others may inhale it?

 

You are absolutly correct on all parts.
Yes I have no children.
Yes the Stench of smoking in the house Stinks up the place.
Yes it is about privacy. but not just my own.
People should have the freedom of choice to do as they wish. without ridicule from others. it is not yet a Communist country. But we are heading that way faster than we realize. and it is not going to be us that suffer the rath. it is going to be your children and Grand children.
i may not be fond of Children But I feel sorry for the ones that are here and for the Future Children. For they are the ones that will have to deal with the Monsters that we create now. No I can not and will not put that on a Child of mine. that is one reason I have no Children.
Selfish? No Just to darn careing about the ones that are here now.

 

Respect

Like I said,
I respect the ones that don't smoke.
I do not smoke in resteraunts . I dont go to bars.
and I Totaly understand the development of a Childs lungs. I have worked in the ER for over 20 years and in Peds for 5 years in Florida.
If I am at your house i will not smoke in your place eighter.. But banning smoking in your own car.. Hello to Communizim. Next they will tell you you are not allowed to put pampers on your baby's. you will have to use the old fashoned cloth Diapers. because the fillament in the newer diapers take up to much room at the Land fill and is poluting the earths ozone creating a Poop Barrier in the time Space continuim.
Just another Id10's Perspective.

 

As I've maintained all along. Your rights exist, and should be unfettered until they interfere with the rights of another.

John Stuart Mill, in On Liberty proposed that "victimless crimes" should not be regulated by society because they involve only the choice one makes, and are of no consequence to another. Mill argues that the sole purpose of law should be to stop people from harming others and that should people want to participate in victimless crimes, crimes with no complaining witness, such as gambling, drug usage, engaging in prostitution, then they should not be encroached in doing so.

The other legal adage I offer is from Oliver Wendell Holmes, whom I'll paraphrase, "Your right to swing your fist ends at the point my nose begins." As does your right to exhale noxious, undesired smoke, that adversely affects my health, in a public place.

There's been no mention of trying to regulate a person's private place, car, home, etc. What has been debated is the ban on smoking in public areas. And a business in NC must operate within the laws of NC. The business owner can not legally decide arbitrarily which laws he will or will not obey, especially if the public health is concerned.

 

I think some people get it...they just don't realize that they get it!!!

Future headlines...Government outlaws sickness in workplace! And next....

...Government outlaws (home or business) indoor wood burning fireplaces and outdoor wood burning...sorry Boy Scouts, Cracker Barrel & Cleveland Fire Dept! And next....

 

You have that ALMOST right, but it is some people think they get it when they do not.

For example:

Indoor wood burning fireplaces, which do not properly vent the combustion material to the outside, ARE already controlled under most inspection laws for habitation.

Some of the major codes are linked here:

http://www.rumford.com/code/code.html


If it is not covered by those laws the Medical Examiner's Office is usually the agenecy with the final say on the matter. As for outside burning, that too is regulated for safety. Examples of why it is regualted can be read in the papers and on this very forum. The impacts of what some see as their "right" impact therights of others and it is the duty of the government to determine the proper limits on one right to mitigate the impact on what is the more important right.