home invasion off Watkins rd

if you get the permit thru the local SO then you do not have to wait the 7 days to purchase your gun, if you do not get the permit the you must wait the alloted 7 or so days to get it. is that what you are asking?

 

Not really. Mostly wondering why a law abiding citizen needs to do both. It would seem that with the advent of speedy computer info these days, the federal ID check would be pretty much instantaneous...plug in SSAN and verify ID....no reason to deny/delay approval....Voila..instant approval.

Seems that the 7 day period for a background check is onerous at best and not necessary IMO. But then again, I'm one of those law abiding citizens who objects to needless limitation of the Bill or Rights.

 

http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

 

This is something wife and I have been thinking about for months, not something we just woke up one day and said we should get a gun, same as you we have been going back and forth about what to do. With the incrase in crime so close to home, we think it the best thing to do. We have an alarm system as well, and hope that would scare someone off, but if not, the delay it takes for the alarm company to respond and the cops to get to our house, we could be dead.

Also wife and I plan to take a safety class of some sort once we get the permit and purchase a gun. We have never owned one before and I think a class of some sort would be well worth the money for both of us to take.

 

If you added a radio back up service or 2 way voice to your current system, that would be faster.

note* the monitoring company can't do anything about how fast the cops get there. - sorry. :cry:

 

Might want to take the class first. I think at some of the shooting ranges they will let you rent or try different guns?

 

We have the 2 way voice now, along with the radio backup (if I recall correct don't think the 2 way voice works if using the radio backup at least with our system).

I undestand they cannot control the cops, just saying it was one of the things on our list as to the reason why we should get a gun. It will be our Last line of defense.

 

You can't wait 7 days? I'm actually surprised it is not longer than that.

 

The 7 day period was originally used to perform the background checks and to act as a "cooling off" period. It is used to prevent someone from getting mad at a football or bar or where ever, going to the store, and walking out while still mad and then using said weapon to exact revenge or get even.

Possession of a valid county sheriff's office issued pistol purchase permit or a valid NC issued concealed carry permit eliminates the 7 day period.


Craig

 

Don't know anything about ATF 4473. Every time I ever bought a handgun all I needed was a Permit to Buy, available at the SO, last time I checked, up to 5 at a time.

Things change. They might have.

 

I'm all for it!!!

Did you see the Ruger .40 semi I posted on the other side? "Quickly ... buy more guns" thread.

I'd offer him $500 or less since it's used. AND you'll need bullets, carrying case, holster, ear protection, etc... to go with it, when you go target shooting.

Got a .40 cal and it's nice, depending on your wifes size it may have a little bit of *kick* for her?


I was just thinking, for those of us who have guns, we should go shooting sometime. But where? Anyone got some land *cough* we can go target shooting on? :mrgreen:
The ranges can be expensive. :?

 

Depending on caliber you have they can be exspensive now as well to shoot.


Craig

 

To allow the process to be slowed as much as the local authorities deem necessary.

 

Some counties take at least 30 days to process the pistol purchase application.

 

RUSM??? 30 days? Jeezo. Unacceptable. What does one need in JoCo in order to apply?

 

http://www.johnstonnc.com/mainpage.cfm?category_level_id=784&content_id=1742

 

the history of the act is even worse ......

http://www.ncrpa.org/faq/ownership.shtml

Q: What is the deal with this Pistol Purchase Permit law? I moved from one NC county to another and found that the Sheriffs of each county have vastly different requirements for getting Permits. Isn't this covered by State law?

A: The Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed in 1919, and is a classic piece of Jim Crow-era legislation (Jim Crow History). The recognition of civil rights for blacks and other minorities meant that the Constitution applied to minorities. This meant that blacks and other minorities could exercise their natural right to self-defense, with the full support of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and Article I, Sec. 30 of the North Carolina Constitution. This did not sit well with the Ku Klux Klan (which for many years was headquartered in Raleigh, just down the street from the Legislature) and other racist groups and influential individuals. The racist members of the State Legislature knew they could not overtly prevent minorities from purchasing handguns for protection, so the seemingly innocent Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed. This law allowed local Sheriffs and government officials to discriminate with impunity at the local level.

Even today, the Pistol Purchase Permit law is implemented in an arbitrary and capricious fashion by 100 individual County Sheriffs. Some Sheriffs do little more than collect the fees and hand out permits to the law-abiding, because more than that is not necessary. Others implement ridiculous, intrusive requirements that either discriminate on a wholesale basis or are selectively applied so that discrimination can be more personalized.

With the advent of the National Instant Check System (NICS) there is no public safety reason why the Pistol Purchase Permit system needs to continue. The Jim Crow era is over, and the laws of that era need to be eliminated. Most people agree with that in principle, but for some reason when it comes to guns a significant number of people seem to think that discrimination and arbitrary requirements are a good thing. This is something NCRPA totally disagrees with.

We have been trying for 10 years to get the Pistol Purchase Permit system completely eliminated. Apparently when it comes to gun control a lot of people think Jim Crow is still a good idea.

 

Took me about 5 mins to fill out the paper work yesterday, if all goes well should be able to pickup the permit on the 24th they told me.

 

Is that 5 dollars per handgun permit, i.e. if I want to buy 5 handguns, I have to pay 25 bucks? Seems ridiculous enough to begin with to have the have the SO's permision to utilize my 2nd Amendment Rights.

If the 5 bucks is to pay for the SO screening/investigation to ensure I am a good citizen, why the need to quantify that 4 more times?

Occurs to me that with the advent of the internets and the ability to check with ATF, there is no need for the SO to get involved.

 

Wayne,
Thanks for the link and info. Joining this week.
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