Garden soil?

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by sacosta, May 6, 2009.

  1. sacosta

    sacosta Well-Known Member

    I've lived in the 4042 area for a couple of years now, and I'm still trying to figure out how to best amend my soil for a garden. I think my subdivision was once a Tobacco farm. My yard only has about an inch of topsoil and under that is solid clay. I need a pickaxe to dig even the smallest hole. So how do you amend your soil to make it good for gardening? I’ve been double-digging, but that is some hard work!
     
  2. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    i am lazy. The first time we dug down about a foot or so and filled with top soil ordered locally, since then every year we just till it up and add a few bags of the Miracle Grow Garden Soil from Lowes, gives the plants a little jumpstart. Good luck.
     
  3. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    Tiller, locally ordered topsoil, and free road apples found in the classifieds.
     
  4. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    If you're that close to hard clay I wouldn't till it in, just build it up for the garden.
     
  5. seabee

    seabee Guest

    clay is really good for gardens if amended with compost/manure, it helps with moisture retention.
     
  6. seabee

    seabee Guest

    Stephensons has good soils... :cheers: :grouphug:
     
  7. nsanemom22

    nsanemom22 Well-Known Member

    My FIL called it gourmet dirt.
     
  8. dgsatman

    dgsatman Well-Known Member

    Go for the strawbale method!!!
     
  9. ddrdan

    ddrdan Well-Known Member

    He hit hard pan clay. That's that great NC stuff that should be called 'rock'. :lol: It was also commercially farmed. That soil isn't even worth it as an additive for all the labor it's going to take to amend it with small equipment.
     
  10. softballmom

    softballmom Well-Known Member

    I would go for Strawbale Gardening, Lasagna Gardening or Raised bed gardening. It would take an awful lot of amending for the roots of your plants to be able to penetrate the clay. If you decide to go that route, you need to work in compost and other organic matter at least a foot deep, 18 inches would be better for root plants. Here are some good resources:


    http://www.no-dig-vegetablegarden.com/index.html

    http://www.squarefootgardening.com/

    http://journeytoforever.org/garden_sqft.html


    The no dig vegetable garden site is my favorite, she has ideas on there for natural bug deterants and fertilizers.


    I am lucky in my part of Johnston Co, I have very sandy soil. My acre was also farm land prior to it growing houses. I have been here 13 years, I have just had a large garden the past 5. Prior to that, I always had a compost heap which I would move every year, and plant a few tomatoes and bell peppers on the previous site.
     
  11. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    That's 3.
     
  12. Cleopatra

    Cleopatra Well-Known Member

    You could do a raised bed, too. If you till, you're still going to be tilling down into clay - just not as deep. You better get started, I've had my garden in for a few weeks now!
     
  13. sacosta

    sacosta Well-Known Member

    Thanks so much for the great advice!
     
  14. seabee

    seabee Guest


    Fill me in Granny,, you know I'm slow... :jester:
     
  15. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Just keeping track of how many times I agree with you. :lol::lol:
     
  16. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    Steve, you probably already know this, but don't work the soil when it's very wet. Like today. That makes it set up like cement. You will probably find it easier to dig in it if it's a little moist, mine gets hard as a rock when it's completely dry. You just have to hit that happy medium when it's moist, but not wet.
     
  17. seabee

    seabee Guest


    Now that is good... geez I need to speed it up some.. :cheers: I'm slowly wearing on you.

    Also to add a quality tool for planting anything and anywhere is a good 4 tine spade fork, the thick heavy duty type. It makes life easy.

    You can stand there with tool in one hand and cold cocktail in other and just lift and drive into ground even hard clay, do it all around based on the size hole or area, do it numerous times and move it around and turn fork as its still in ground and it will break up area and make for easy shoveling, add manure or whatever and then again spike it in ground more to get manure and stuff down in ground more. Try it and I guarantee you'll stick to that method, it exerts a lot less energy and makes job a breeze.
     
  18. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    That is actually my favorite garden tool, but it's not quite that easy for me - you must be a lot stronger than I am! I use both hands and a foot.
     
  19. sacosta

    sacosta Well-Known Member


    I haven't posted on a regular basis for several months. I'm impressed that you remembered my name!
     

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