Damn where was this many many years ago... Nice reward for toking... GEEZ.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/drug-offenders-federal-student-aid-new/?test=latestnews
Get High...Get College financial aid. What makes it worse is how many people stay enrolled just long enough to get the aid check. I teach adults and many of them leave after a short time in class. I drop them for violating the attendance policy and it gets reported to our financial aid dept., but many of them get away with thousands before the system catches up with them. They move school to school, which makes it more difficult. On the other end of the spectrum, I have VA students who get checked on every two weeks to keep their funding. Something is very wrong with this.:banghead:
That legislation would seem to be supported by the majority here ..... http://www.4042.com/4042forums/showthread.php?t=26165&highlight=legalize
Wayne really you are so stretching that.... there is a big difference and you outta know better... Just because I feel anybody should be able to partake in a hit now and then I sure in HELL don't want them to get paid to do it while in college... Geez Dude get with it... Some of the stances you take I can understand your confusion... thats ok bud... :cheers::cheers: I will keep ya in check..
What are you talking about? If you believe being able to get a loan to attend collage is the same being paid to do drugs at any time, there is too much confusion on your part to even begin to explain it.
Evidently you did not read the article to which you posted the link or do not know what a loan is. :nopity: College students convicted of drug possession may soon get access to federal student loans due to a little-noticed provision in the 181-page Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009. The bill, which makes major revisions to the student loan system, was introduced by California congressman George Miller, a Democrat. It is expected to pass in the House of Representatives. The provision would reverse a 1998 amendment that made students convicted of drug-possession ineligible to receive federal funding unless they completed a rehabilitation program and passed two unannounced drug tests. Students convicted of dealing drugs would continue to be prohibited from receiving financial aid.
they are given aid for tooting up... my bad not cash... kill me now... look this is another one of those darwin moments in reversing that bill... I mean is it not to much to ask that if we give you funding ie. money that you proof an attempt at righting a wrong... No thats to harsh a punishment... lets give them some funding and hope they get right and pay it back.... no sense in trying to help them and give them a incentive to get clean... Can you relate to that????
No, they are getting aid in spite of tooting up. It seems the English language is continually a problem for some. Except we do not require any such "righting" for any other wrongs, such as stealing, killing, or butchering the English language in the attempt to make a political statement. I think it sounds like a hypocritical stance, personally. Maybe that is the portion to which you relate?
Pasco agreed that the current law prohibits only drug users from receiving aid -- there are no legal prohibitions for other felons, including murderers and rapists -- but he said that he would prefer to see the law made even stricter.
Righting a wrong? Could you clarify what you mean by that? The phrase removed prevents people from gaining a federal student loan with a prior conviction for drug possession (without concern for any other crimes). Even if you've served your time, and paid your debt to society, promised never to do drugs again, and taught kids about the dangers of doing drugs, you'll still have that conviction on your record. This isn't a reward for toking up, this is the removal of a permanent punishment that removes an avenue for legitimately turning their lives around.
What would your opinion be on alcohol usage by student aid recipients? You do agree that alcohol can be a factor, in the same negative manner as pot, in a students’ ability in learning? Can it also become an addiction and produce the same results in odds of pay back? They are both detrimental to the education assistance programs. It’s a greater good when you ignore the 10% bad factor in an effort to improve the chances for the other 90%.
Clarify... well if its needed I can which it appears to be such a case.. Even if they're convicted under the bill now they can still get the aid "IF" they submit to 2 clean test and a rehabilitation class... whats so wrong with that????
It is an end run attempt at double jeopardy, where someone is punished twice for the same offense. It is also only aimed at some drug users, not rapists, murderers, arsonists, terrorists, or even the worst criminals ....... Republicans.
I can relate to alcohol being more dangerous or just as... but one is an illegal substance for now the other isn't... The bill now will aid those that take the steps to show their desire to make amends by re hab and a couple clean test.
I guess I've got to stick with wrong being wrong whether it's a legal source of getting high or an illegal source. I'm not going to give credence to an alcohol user over a drug user when it comes to abusing education assistance that benefits’ so many others.
