China Star @ 210 - KIDS working there

Actually, this is what I said and did not presume to know the truth about the situation given what we know, which is why I said "maybe", but maybe you don't read it because of the poster. 8)

 

If you don't think you've been guilty of this despite the fact that you won't admit it then you must take us all for a bunch of idiots (oh wait, you already do....nevermind).

 

You are right. I did not remember it correctly.

 

No, there are few, if any, idiots here.

 

Thank you.

 

Hot damn the world just stood still,,, Hell just froze over... Save this post....

:cheers::cheers:

Wayne this is your first step to humility... kudos... now stay on that road and don't get lost... :jester:

 

Ok that is one line I'm probably at the front.... :cheers:

 

You are welcome.

 

I wonder if I remebered the point of this portion correctly though. :mrgreen:

 

I was saying that I don't need the facts to know that it is impossible for an adult to have their eyes on these kids at all times that they are there. Just as at home.

 

he did not quote the labor law, but defined what he believed to be the law.
The law states and I quote "under the age of 14" cannot "work" in any setting except for their responsibilities at home that are appropriate for the age of the child. Sorry but that's the law not my opinion or what I think the law is.

 

Sounds like you had good parents as well, because you seem to have great values as I read most your posts, but there are many of us that didn't come from that type of background that had the same values instilled in us. My husband was raised on a very big cattle farm and although he worked very hard he had great parents, those parents gave him many choices and many opportunities. He felt obligated to help as part of the family but never felt that he did not have a choice or say in it. Jobs were given to each kid according to age ability. We all have our opinions on this topic but in the end the law is there to protect those kids less fortunate, those with parents that see a way of having free labor and tend to overstep the law and abuse their status as a parent. We still have underground sweat shops in the U.S. and children are brought from all over the world to work in these sweat shops or in illegal labor practices. It is stated that slave labor is bigger in this day and time than ever before because it's a very lucrative business. For me this is not about this particular family, they may be the best parents in the world but they still have to abide by child labor laws and who knows maybe they are, it's not for me to say.

 

I have to agree with some of y'all. especially this ^

I understand the underfoot/hot grease area and all but wouldnt' they have the same danger at home if their mom or pops was fryin' up some chicken or whatnot in their personal kitchen. That grease is hot too.

I think them starting out that young teaches them responsibility and keeps them together as a family.

The only beef I would have would be if I was in a hurry and they were "teaching" their kid something that slowed me down in the check out. I'd get flustered but I'd get over it, too. But if the kid has enough sense about him to ring me up, swipe my card, and KNEW his monetary figures well enough to operate all that stuff... I say WORK IT KIDDO!

 

Hear Hear! Same Here

worked on a farm as well and I've had my fair share of broken bones, scrapes, and bruises. I do have to say though, all the broken bones I had were from extracurricular activities, not from farm work. :lol:

 

For the record,
I have two of the best adult kids in the world. Never gave their dad or me one minute of trouble through their little toddler ages, up through their late teens and as young adults. We don't own a farm, a family business etc. they've never worked in a field or cropped tobacco etc. but they know the value of a hard days work, responsibilities, courage, honesty, morals, compassion for others and so many other great values taught to them by their parents via examples. Good people come from all kinds of backgrounds.:lol:

 

The quote was not a personal belief but one from the official NC labor website.



http://www.nclabor.com/wh/fact sheets/joint_state_fed.htm

MINIMUM AGE STANDARDS FOR EMPLOYMENT

The FLSA and the child labor regulations issued at 29 CFR, Part 570, and the WHA and the youth employment regulations establish both hours and occupational standards for youth. Children of any age are generally permitted to work for businesses entirely owned by their parents, except those under 16 may not be employed in mining or manufacturing, and no one under 18 may be employed in any occupation the Secretary of Labor has declared to be hazardous or the Commissioner of Labor has declared to be detrimental.

 

There is more to the law than the above, very brief statement, try reading further and doing the correct research. The "Laws" as broken down even further than the above that you pulled out of context, has the ages broken down into groups. How do I know this, for one my family owned a private business and for another I've had two kids that have worked out there in the local businesses. Debate it all you want, your wrong. under 14 cannot work the same as a 17 year old, as the law states, 14-15 cannot work in the same capacity as a 16-17 year old etc. etc. etc., 16-17 cannot serve alcohol or work behind the bar where it's sold, it goes on and on and on according to the age group.

 

Oh and by the way, there are many Federal laws as well, not just NC.

 

this is still going...............Gosh, just don't eat there......SIMPLE

 

The quote was not "out of context" and it was from the official source for enforcement in NC. Maybe you should contact the NCDOL and inform them of their error. I am sure they would appraciate it.

With exceptions, which according to the listing include some of the parental owned businesses, as well as, volunteer services where no true employer/employee relationship exists.

I think anyone should take the question up with the NCDOL before assuming a blanket coverage either way.