Johnston County Schools question

http://www.epi.org/publication/states-education-productivity-growth-foundations/

Major findings of this report include the following:

Overwhelmingly, high-wage states are states with a well-educated workforce. There is a clear and strong correlation between the educational attainment of a state’s workforce and median wages in the state.

States can build a strong foundation for economic success and shared prosperity by investing in education. Providing expanded access to high quality education will not only expand economic opportunity for residents, but also likely do more to strengthen the overall state economy than anything else a state government can do.

Cutting taxes to capture private investment from other states is a race-to-the-bottom state economic development strategy that undermines the ability to invest in education.

States can increase the strength of their economies and their ability to grow and attract high-wage employers by investing in education and increasing the number of well-educated workers.

Investing in education is also good for state budgets in the long run, since workers with higher incomes contribute more through taxes over the course of their lifetimes.

 

So was it the principal? This thread went off into a totally different direction...opcorn:

 

Democrats have run the finances of this state into the ground for the better part of the last 50 years (mostly to exploit the poor and blacks). Now someone wants to clean it up and the whining starts.

Having said that, NC needs to be better than 48th but in order to bring in some revenue from which to pay them, some business friendly laws need to be passed and implemented. With a socialist in the White House, it won't happen overnight.

 

What businesses would want to come to a state where the education system is imploding? If employees are to relocate they will not want to do so because of the impact on their children and the established workforce will have been impacted in a similar fashion. The investment of education pays off over time, but seeking to pay for it in advance puts the other states in a better position.

 

This link below is about Wake County teachers, but could be applied to all counties in our state. If I were to guess I would bet these teachers are leaving for the same reason in Johnston County.

Sherry

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/17/3791994/wake-county-sees-alarming-increase.html

School officials said the increase in resignations in North Carolina’s largest school system points to the need to raise pay for teachers and to revisit changes made by state legislators to phase out tenure and to eliminate extra pay for advanced degrees.

Statewide, teacher turnover in the 2012-13 school year reached the second highest rate in a decade. Early retirements are up. And in the UNC system – the largest producer of new teachers – enrollment in teacher training programs declined by nearly 7 percent in 2013.

North Carolina ranks 46th in the nation in average teacher pay.

 

The teachers should be paid more. Now, where are you going to get the money to do that?

Personally I'm in favor of firing half of the schools administration staff. There are too many chiefs and not enough indians, if you know what I mean.

That's my suggestion, what's yours?

 

Save the money from the implementation of the new voter ID law would be a good starting point. Those raises given to the select few in the new administration would be another bit to add to the pot. Some of those new tax breaks might be good to reconsider too..

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/23/3051880/mccrory-signs-new-tax-law.html

The measure cuts personal and corporate income taxes to the lowest levels of neighboring states, starting with reductions in the 2014 tax year, and limits future state spending by more than $2 billion in the next five years.


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Republicans argue that every taxpayer will see a cut as a part of the new law but legislative analyses prove otherwise. Some families, retirees and small business owners may see a tax hike under provisions in the bill and all taxpayers will have to pay some additional sales taxes. The largest tax breaks will go to higher-income earners, particularly single taxpayers, who will see a larger proportional cut than a North Carolina household making the state’s median income of $40,000 a year.

 

The new voter ID law does not cost anything to implement, except for the "free" state ID cards. Are you against the state providing citizens who cannot afford IDs with those IDs free of charge?

But I can see the effects of poor education in this state.

:lol:

 

The "does not cost anything" missed the mark by a few million dollars ..... I am against wasting that much money when we are losing teachers at the rate we are.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/02/report-voter-id-law-unaffordable-for-north-carolina.html

Drawing on data from other states, the Facing South/Institute for Southern Studies report concludes that an effective voter ID program could end up costing North Carolina taxpayers $18 to $25 million over three years, just slightly more than the estimated price tag for a similar measure in Missouri.

 

So the net of your suggestion to increase teacher pay is to get rid of the republicans?

That may solve half the problem, now let's talk about the fact that the teacher pay has been # forty whatever when democrats were in charge?

In spite of your incessant complaints about republicans, this is not a new issue suddenly started when McCrory came into office. Teacher pay has been in the bottom 20% for Perdue's reign and even before Easly's reign.

 

No, just to roll back the tax breaks for the higher income brackets which got the bulk of the breaks.

Ahhh, you need the politification of the discussion in order to continue. Sorry that would be in the other forum.

You asked where we could come up with the funds and both of these would be good places to start and which would not have much of an impact on the majority of the citizens of the state.

 

So, when you said:

You weren't politicizing the conversation? (BTW, "politification" isn't an english word).

Someone please fix the education system so that Wayne can get back to school and learn how to spell!

I asked Sherry specifically.

 

I was pointing to the new programs which are causing some of the problem.

Perhaps if thye fix the education system you can learn how to use logic, as the leap to

from reversing some of the programs they have insituted is huge.

So why discuss it if you were only interested in her response? In a forum discussion there are often multiple inputs so if you want a private conversation you should use the PM function.

 

Core Curriculum is not helping.

 

Common Core? I disagree. It has helped one of my girls immensely, the other sees it as busy work.