I notice that there have been a lot of states coming out against what NC has done. My question is, how many of those states have a law on the books that allows anyone to use any bathroom they want if they "identify" with that sex? And if they don't have a law allowing it, why don't they pass one? My guess is not many, and none will pass one. But I don't know that for sure, anyone checked that out?
XX= girl XY= boy Other than Wikipedia, do you have any credible sources that state that when chromosomes are tested, not just a physical exam, that 1.7% of births are "unisex"?
And all of these little stores, usually have ONE single stall restroom, that ANY employee can use. Unisex...
And men attacking women does happen in the women's bathroom: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/on-air/as...m-of-Long-Island-Mall_New-York-229951731.html http://www.cityoftaylor.com/content...lice-urge-caution-when-using-public-restrooms http://nypost.com/2015/04/14/woman-attacked-raped-in-bathroom-of-gramercy-bar/ http://www.wthr.com/story/29650364/woman-allegedly-attacked-in-bathroom-stall-at-circle-centre-mall http://www.ktvu.com/news/103223658-story http://dailysignal.com/2016/01/25/s...st-washingtons-transgender-bathroom-policies/ And having a single-stall unisex bathroom doesn't necessarily mean someone is safer - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...stonewall-inn-new-york-s-famous-lgbt-bar.html
Jesse, you're right. A single stall bathroom can still be dangerous, but in the link you posted, that Transwoman allowed someone else to come in. Typically you wouldn't allow someone else in your locked single stall bathroom, or at least I'd hope not.
You have yet to provide any proof (or even a correlation) to support your assertion that protecting the rights of a Transgender person lead to an increase in bathroom attacks. You've created a concern without a cause.
But none of these were caused by passing an anti-discrimination law. That's the point. Are there ways to make bathrooms safer? Of course. But they don't involve discrimination.
You're blind. We've shown you that men attack women and children in public restrooms, with or without allowing protection for transgenders. Making the bathrooms safer is what Roy did. And I stand with him.
Not in all cases, which is why such a "common sense" claim fails. http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html Humans are born with 46 chromosomes in 23 pairs. The X and Y chromosomes determine a person’s sex. Most women are 46XX and most men are 46XY. Research suggests, however, that in a few births per thousand some individuals will be born with a single sex chromosome (45X or 45Y) (sex monosomies) and some with three or more sex chromosomes (47XXX, 47XYY or 47XXY, etc.) (sex polysomies). In addition, some males are born 46XX due to the translocation of a tiny section of the sex determining region of the Y chromosome. Similarly some females are also born 46XY due to mutations in the Y chromosome. Clearly, there are not only females who are XX and males who are XY, but rather, there is a range of chromosome complements, hormone balances, and phenotypic variations that determine sex. The biological differences between men and women result from two processes: sex determination and differentiation.(3) The biological process of sex determination controls whether the male or female sexual differentiation pathway will be followed. The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex) involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps. More than 95% of the Y chromosome is male-specific (4) and a single copy of the Y chromosome is able to induce testicular differentiation of the embryonic gonad. The Y chromosome acts as a dominant inducer of male phenotype and individuals having four X chromosomes and one Y chromosome (49XXXXY) are phenotypically male. (5) When a Y chromosome is present, early embryonic testes develop around the 10th week of pregnancy. In the absence of both a Y chromosome and the influence of a testis-determining factor (TDF), ovaries develop. The births are not unisex, which is the problem. http://www.isna.org/faq/frequency Below we provide a summary of statistics drawn from an article by Brown University researcher Anne Fausto-Sterling.2 The basis for that article was an extensive review of the medical literature from 1955 to 1998 aimed at producing numeric estimates for the frequency of sex variations. Note that the frequency of some of these conditions, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia, differs for different populations. These statistics are approximations. Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births Ovotestes one in 83,000 births Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate 5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births Total number of people receiving surgery to “normalize” genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births
Yes, women are attacked in restrooms, but the point which is missed is the claim these attacks would increase, which is not supported by fact.
Which means they already have the unisex they would be required to have. The larger buildings, however, generally do not have such a situation. Belks, for example, seem to have more multiple person bathrooms than unisex in their stores.
No, there is an assumption concerning the safety increase, but the statistics do not support that assumption. There is nothing to show an increase in attacks due to access by transgender, which would be necessary to make this a valid public safety issue.
None have laws specifically restricting the localities from passing such an ordinance, as NC has done. Several of the states DO have such local ordinances protecting the rights of LGBT.
Belks for example. Great example. So while I or my daughter are in the dressing room trying on swimsuits, it's okay for a man to share the same space? Nope. Not okay. If that individual has a penis-they need to be in the men's dressing room trying on their swimsuit.
Wayne, really? The Intersex Society of North America?? And the sources at the bottom of the article are from 1998 and 2000?! You can't make laws that endanger the majority to play into the delicate psyche of the minority.
If that "man" was transgender and in the process of becoming a female, why not? Would you oppose a lesbian from being in that same space? Would you oppose a woman who wanted to secretly video others?
Yes, people who would have a reason to gather all of the data. Do you have a source that states otherwise? Yes, and the percentages were taken from data over long periods prior to that. Do you think the problems somehow disappeared on their own That is good because there is no evidence to support danger to the majority but there is evidence to support danger to the minority. If you count the fear of danger you have left the realm of fact and gone into beliefs and that is easily countered by the beliefs of anyone else.
Thank you, you have just made my point: discriminating against transgenders will have no impact on bathroom attacks. The logical question then becomes, if discrimination doesn't make an impact why are you (or anyone) for it?
Why do y'all keep saying there is no evidence that supports fear of women and children with men being in the bathrooms?? We've posted link after link of attacks! And a MAN in the process of becoming a woman, is still a MAN! If I put on jeans and a polo and get a buzz cut, and stop wearing makeup and shove a pair of socks down the front of my pants, I still have to sit to pee. I'm still a female. As far as opposing a lesbian being in the woman's room, no, by definition a lesbian is a female. She belongs there.
Did you miss the WITH or WITHOUT part? Some links that have been posted showed that pervs used laws similar to this one to gain access to female only areas.
