Bathrooms in Charlotte

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  1. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Really, who would want the NCAA tournament in NC anyway?

    http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article69320567.html

    Thursday, NCAA president Mark Emmert made it clear that House Bill 2 puts the state at risk of hosting future NCAA events, most notably the basketball tournament, which North Carolina has hosted 17 times in the past two decades and will again in 2017 and 2018.

    HB2, which prevents local governments from enacting anti-discrimination ordinances, has been decried by critics as open license to discriminate, especially against the LGBT community. Emmert said that as the NCAA selects sites for the 2019-22 tournaments, a process that begins in June and runs through November, HB2 would hurt North Carolina’s chances of hosting again.

    “For the universities and colleges that are members of the NCAA, diversity and inclusion is one of the benchmark values that every one of those institutions adheres to,” Emmert said. “So this is an issue of great importance for us. … The experience that our student-athletes, teams, universities, the fan base has, in any one community, is a consideration in where we determine to play these games.
     
  2. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    I am curious, can a guy wearing gender neutral clothes and long hair just walk into a womans' bathroom in the other 49 states with no legal consequences? If anyone asked, he could say he feels feminine. Is that currently legal in every state except NC?
     
  3. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I would imagine that there are no laws forbidding such access, because there are few instances of need for such a law.

    For employees there 18 states (CA, CO, CT, DE, HI, IL, IO, ME, MA, MD, MN, NJ, NV, NM, OR, RI, VT, WA) and the District of Columbia which have employment laws that explicitly protect employees on the basis of gender identity and the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) forbids employers from placing “unreasonable” restrictions on restroom access.

    Then the discrimination factor for public access have had a few legal precedents:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/colorado-transgender-girl-6-wins-discrimination-case/
     
  4. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Another significant effect of the law that has no connection to the LGBT community but does affect the way a business will view the state.

    http://www.twcnews.com/nc/triangle-...-concerns-about-widespread-impact-of-hb2.html

    CHAPEL HILL -- As the debate over House Bill 2 continues, concerns about the widespread impact are surfacing.

    Laura Noble with The Noble Law Firm in Chapel Hill says many of her clients are now at a standstill because the new law takes a toll on employment bias lawsuits.

    One sentence in the legislation prohibits employees of private businesses from filing lawsuits of workplace discrimination in state court.

    Now a claim would have to be taken to federal court, but critics say the process is more expensive and takes longer to resolve.

    “There is an anti-discrimination statute in North Carolina called the Equal Employment Practices Act. The HB2 bill eliminated the ability for citizens to rely on that statute to bring wrongful termination claims on the basis of discrimination. As a result, there are no state law claims available for residents who believe they were terminated on the basis of a discriminatory reason," said Laura Noble with The Noble Law Firm.

    North Carolina is now one of few states that don’t have this law protection in place. Some say that has a negative impact on attracting new business to the state.
     
  5. IYF

    IYF Well-Known Member

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  7. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Again, I am not sure how that relates to them choosing not to open in North Carolina as planned. Most US Based businesses operate in countries such as Russia and Saudi Arabia and do not condone their practices.

    If as in the past you looked at North Carolina as a state firmly rooted in the 21st century, this year you were reminding that some folks want us to regress as a state. If I was PayPal I would realize there are at least 20 other states that aren't moving backwards and will accommodate my customers and employees.
     
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  8. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately the only part of this bill that gets attention is the bathroom. I wish people understood that the bathroom is only the "shiny object" that distracts people from the crap that was in the bill. I could understand, not agree with, but understand your argument if the bathroom was the only thing this bill was about.
     
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  9. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

  10. poppin cork

    poppin cork Well-Known Member

    No, just typical liberal double standards and the usual bully tactics.
     
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  11. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Sorry that you believe the WHOLE issue is a double standard and pointing out the important points being ignored in the meme is being a bully. I am sure people can see for themselves which is correct if they actually read the information on the law. Those like yourself may believe whatever small portion you are told if you wish.
     
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  12. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    The bill itself:

    Help in understanding if the bill itself is unclear as many legal documents are:

     
  13. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

  14. cynadon

    cynadon Well-Known Member

    Sir Charles. enough said. the voice of wisdom.
     
  15. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

  16. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    Doing business in or opening a major office? PayPal's business is wire transfers, essentially. I think wire transfer can go across political boundaries. So big difference in "doing business" versus opening an office that would employ 400 people.
     
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  17. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    lol. Yup
     
  18. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

  19. ricks99

    ricks99 Well-Known Member

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  20. Sherry A.

    Sherry A. Well-Known Member

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