CSX in JoCo

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by jesse82nc, Jan 13, 2016.

  1. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Well, would you look at that. Nobody, but nobody wants to pick up the call for a new thread here to discuss the 2006 North Carolina legislative CHANGES to the laws of Eminent Domain, that all posters here are conveniently ignoring or minimizing - and I wonder why is that? I'm not going to argue here with people who don't have a shred of common decency to support the decision of rural, generational landowners, and then publicly mock and shame these people online behind their backs. I am strongly in favor of personal American Independence and the right of private owners (whatever they own) to make private decisions based on their own personal circumstances which have nothing to do with you, or me, or anybody else. I am surprised that any American would even need to argue against this fact. Feel free to attack, deflect, obscure, and insult, and do whatever it is that you are trying to accomplish here on this board without bothering to consider your neighbors in the least.
    Good Day, and God Bless.
     
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  2. poppin cork

    poppin cork Well-Known Member

    Well, Bye.............................
     
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  3. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    I learned my lesson about such discussions here.
     
  4. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    By that same token, "heart" and "emotion" should be need to be put into employment an entire region of individuals, small businesses, etc. without work. I fully recognize the fact that this property has meaning beyond money. However, if this land has been in the family for generations then one of those generations sold/gave land to the railroad that runs right next to it. This was done at a time when people were craving economic prosperity and they likely got it thanks to the railroad. Did it last? Maybe not. Have things changed. Perhaps. Does sentimental value trump infrastructure that serves a region, state, country? We can have different opinions about that.
     
  5. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Pretty well said Harv.
     
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  6. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    The reason it might not have been addressed is that many of the people involved in this discussion already disagree with your viewpoint and see the benefits of eminent domain in certain instances. So what is the point of discussing a 10 year old law?

    Keep in mind those generational land owners have likely benefited from the very same infrastructure that everyone else has (roads, sewers, schools, etc.) and when a jurisdiction or public service company needs to improve, expand or tear something up then the needs of the entire community that the infrastructure is intended to serve need to be looked at over the needs of a few landowners. Most planners will turn over just about every stone to minimize any impact, but sometimes the road just has to go through a specific area and it is as simple as that. In those cases the landowners are compensated.

    Eminent domain aside, what would you think of Honda putting a huge plant in Johnston County that would employ 10,000 people? What if of the 50 landowners they needed to buy out only 5 of them refused? What then?
     
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  7. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

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    Oh, you mean like THESE good "jobs"? But why bother telling the whole story?
     
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  11. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Or maybe you'd prefer this FULLY AUTOMATED intermodal container facility: image.jpg
     
  12. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

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    Freedom, Independence, Personal Responsibility, Private Ownership Rights without Eminent Domain Lies and Abuses.
     
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  13. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    In going to manufacturing sites for a living and I can tell you that you cherry picked those jobs.

    I don't want to live in a world of robots and currently robots aren't as integrated into manufacturing as you indicate.
     
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  14. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Sources: Honda Robotics Division
    International Federation of Robotics
    Intermodal Automation

    How is going straight to the horse's mouth, "cherry-picking"? Just like I went straight to DukeEnergy.com and CSX.com to research their roles in rural coal ash dumps and rural water contamination when we were discussing those topics?
     
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  15. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    How about Merrill-Lynch and Reuters sources? Are those okay with you? image.jpg image.jpg
     
  16. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    In this case Cherry-picking is appropriate, especially if you are familiar with the real world.
     
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  17. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    You may not "want to live in a world of robots", but automation is coming, whether you like it or not. And that fantastical "Honda plant" promise that you're dangling like a false carrot to protect Eminent Domain abuses, will very likely use automated workers as well, just like they're doing right now in Japan and the US. At least Henry Ford had real workers who were able to afford and buy their own Fords.
     
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  18. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    I'm very familiar with the real world, honey. Have you been to the check-outs at Walmart lately?
     
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  19. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    Here is your whole story: Three Google searches and I found plenty of information, so nope, I was thinking more along the lines of the 4,200 in Marysville, OH or the 4,000 in Lincoln, AL. I may also point out an average capital investment of $4 Billion. Here is a link to common jobs and their salaries.

    So now that YOU know the whole story, did you want to answer my question: Eminent domain aside, what would you think of Honda putting a huge plant in Johnston County that would employ 10,000 people? What if of the 50 landowners they needed to buy out only 5 of them refused? What then?
     
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  20. Harvey

    Harvey Well-Known Member

    Do you think robots just materialize out of thin air with a pre-programmed set of commands and never need maintenance or did you need to know the whole story? They are not autonomous beings and while they do replace some jobs their main intent is accuracy, speed and efficiency but that does not mean they do not need human help. In fact, many manufacturing robots are symbiotic and require a human to operate.
     
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