No, Cranky I'm not really angry, I just don't like when newcomers want to decide our fate. You said you been here since 2000. We remember when that was a computer bug. If you own more than your yard, its easy to see how incorporation is detrimental to property owners.
Sure, but having local control over how that growth happens makes a big difference and so does a local tax base. No one wants to pay more taxes, but everyone wants less crowded schools and less traffic. You can't have one without the other. Gotta pay to play, just hope the team spends the money wisely.
So Harvey, how would more local control mediate traffic and school crowding while restraining taxes of the new incorporated area.???
So dont build it until you can do it properly. Thats planning. Building it anytime before is a lack of.
Thanks for all of your responses! I'm going to go forward to trying to incorporate Cleveland School Area! I do not feel that I need a person in government. I just need about 25% to be on board! YAY! http://www.ncleg.net/documentsites/...mary of Municipal Incorporation Procedure.pdf
You won't restrain taxes, for one, and I never said that. Taxes will go up. That's the point. What people who **** and moan about higher taxes don't get is that with those taxes come services. If you want to live out in the country and only receive law enforcement from the sheriff as your only service, please do so. The problem is the Cleveland community is no longer 'the country' and hasn't been for more than a decade. As for local control mediating traffic, you'd have a planning board/department that would make decisions that were in the best interest of the local community as opposed to folks from the county. Did you know that the two closest planning board members are in Clayton? Not one representative from this area. How do you think 40/42 got so screwed up? No one forced the people who developed things up there to do anything that made sense.
I have another question, what area do you incorporate? 1- The area around Cleveland School 2-The area around 40/42 3- The entire area
The Town of Archer Lodge (no 's please) was incorporated primarily to "keep Archer Lodge the community we know and love" or some such wording. Basically some people were worried about Clayton and/or Wendell taking over. All well and good. But so far the only "service" offered by the town is street lighting on about four roads. No trash pickup, no law enforcement beyond what JCSO already provided, no additional revenue towards ALFD. The town isn't allowing commercial growth in the limits, but is allowing residential. The town is also not annexing any property in order to grow. There are things town's do that aren't readily apparent to the public, and I'm sure there are plans/ideas/directions the town wants to go. But to John Q. Taxpayer there has been little or no visible improvement over what was available prior to incorporation, and it has been years since AL became a town. I wouldn't call it buyer's remorse, but it is government. And anything with the government takes more time than told, and often falls short of expectations.
Harvey, what if somebody lives on a piece of property the size of any subdivision around. How much of your services can they afford?
Clayton and Wendell both said before Archer Lodge wanted to incorporate that they had no intention of annexing the area. Course, you could not tell that to Archer Lodge.
One more reason we dont need a mayor, or town council. It would only be another layer of lying politicians, and wasted tax dollars.
True. But they had met with each other and had a plan of how they would split the area if they decided to change their minds. And all it takes is a change in councilmen to change the direction of a town.
As far as a name goes, why not McLemore. It's not taken as far as I can tell. It leaves us with the issue of not being confused with Cleveland NC, or Cleveland OH (but our local high schools would still likely win a Superbowl before the Browns). It pays tribute to one of the long standing families in the area, and it's not hard to spell.
