Covid 19

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Wayne Stollings, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Buzz and poppin tend to turn every thread into a rant and rave thread if certain people participate ....
     
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  2. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Ain’t that the truth!
     
  3. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    LOL,,, Hypocrites ACW - dwk still shining bright I see.
    They do no wrong in their own hypocritical eyes.
    dwk has ruined a many of posts with the help of boy toy ACW.
    The more dwk lies and rants on others the more she will be put in her place on her hypocritical dirty lying tactics.
     
  4. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    And only 40 years too late…..LOL

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  5. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Case in point. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     
  6. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Yeah,, you always unknowingly are validating your hypocrisy. Thanks for your backfired “ case in point”.
     
  7. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    Just a few pieces of news that nobody wants to talk about


    https://abc11.com/covid-booster-shots-vaccine-shot-timing-8-months/10956154/

    U.S. experts are expected to recommend COVID-19 vaccine boosters for all Americans, regardless of age, eight months after they received their second dose of the shot, to ensure lasting protection against the coronavirus as the delta variant spreads across the country.

    https://abc11.com/27-vaccinated-people-test-positive-for-covid-on-carnival-ship-/10949924/

    27 vaccinated people test positive for COVID on Carnival ship

    https://www.click2houston.com/news/...hrough-cases-changes-will-be-needed-from-cdc/

    “Unfortunately, right now we are not systematically tracking breakthrough cases, not in the county, not in the state, and not in the nation as a whole,” said Dr. Katelyn Jetelina, an assistant professor with the UT School of Public Health as well as an advisor to Harris County on its COVID response efforts.

    https://www.kold.com/2021/08/14/fact-finders-long-haul-covid-19-possible-breakthrough-cases/

    The head of the Immunobiology Department at the University of Arizona, Dr. Janko Nikolich-Zugich, says patients who are vaccinated and have a breakthrough infection of COVID it is possible you could have lingering symptoms. Those symptoms are often referred to as long-haul COVID or long-COVID.

    https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021...stant-to-vaccines-early-lab-studies-show.html

    New COVID variants Epsilon, Lambda may be resistant to vaccines, early lab studies show



     
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  8. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Wait, Jesse. Whatever happened to our discussion about monetized, YouTube content creators, like the debunked junk you posted from Dr. Bridle, who is STILL able to make money online from his covid disinformation content? Are you just walking away from that discussion now, and moving on to another topic?
     
  9. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    Do you have any proof that he is actually collecting a check from YouTube? I don't even see any proof that he has anything to do with the "Net Nuance" channel that posted that video.
     
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  10. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    As you’re always cluelessly ranting on others around here about staying on topic and getting off topic you should follow your own advice hypocrite.
    He’s discussing Covid 19 , not your u tube fantasy.
    if you want to discuss u tube go start a u tube thread.
     
  11. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    “Nobody wants to talk about” these published topics that we’ve ALREADY discussed on here - including the possible need for booster shots, long haul Covid symptoms, and other variants which may arise and be resistant to the current vaccine? Jesse, if you’re going to post disparate information, willy-nilly, you’ll need to add more CONTEXT to your question to make your subject matter and your inquiry more understandable.
     
  12. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Again you’re not the voice of anyone here but yourself & ACW so quit trying to include everyone like you have done before. You don’t control this board to be telling others what can & will be discussed.
    It’s just another hi lighting moment of your hypocrisy and constant babbling out of both sides of your mouth.
     
  13. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    We have been taking about this, but what we have not been saying is that the vaccines are not necessary as do some of your folks. The vaccine tests did not show anything approaching 100% prevention of anything other than death and that was prior to the later variants. What you are not discussing is the numbers of unvaccinated people testing positive, having long term effects, and no real resistance to any of the variants.
     
  14. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    As much proof as his video has regarding the masks and spread of Covid-19, but then again you all have that whole double standard.
     
  15. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Deflections shield to maximum power!!!!
     
  16. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Please take some remedial classes on reading, reading comprehension, and the meaning of words in the English language so that you do not look quite so foolish when you state what people have said incorrectly. I realize it is one of your favorite logical fallicies, but that does not make it any more truthful.
     
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  17. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Do you have “proof” that this crackpot Dr. Bridle is NOT profiteering? What I’ve proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, through YouTube YPP monetization documents, is that it is STILL possible to make money from YouTube videos. You just need to become a member of their YPP program, click the “monetize” button on your account, and then you get a percentage of the advertising profits. It’s a piece of cake, and any content creator (once they get approved as a member into the YPP) can do it. And with that crackpot Dr. Bridle all over YouTube, and now earning money in other lucrative ventures, it’s a pretty good bet that he’s profiting from his videos.

    As far as the Net Nuance channel on which this video gathered so many views, who’s to say whether Dr. Bridle is affiliated with them, or not? YouTube content creators can work with marketing professionals who can help them amplify their content, or channels can steal content from the creators themselves. It goes on and on, but you can bet that SOMEBODY is making MONEY, and my bet is that Dr. Bridle is definitely getting his cut! What concerns me the most, is that viewers don’t always know about the financial self-interest and machinations behind the YouTube content that they are viewing. They see a content creator in “authority” and with “credentials” and they automatically give that person their full attention, and spread this awful disinformation. Worse, these viewers make money for these grifters without realizing what they are doing, especially older folks who may not be as technologically astute, or may trust things at face value, like in prior eras, and may not understand that the country is now FULL of charlatans and grifters online, and everywhere else, just out to make a buck.
     
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  18. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    That was a quote from Jesse’s post! Are you a native English speaker, or is English your fourth language that you don’t get to practice that much, except maybe on here?
     
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  19. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    https://abc7chicago.com/coronavirus...id-booster-shot-is-pfizer-effective/10949401/

    Expert shares equation that shows even a 100% vaccination rate is not enough to stop Delta variant

    Dr. Ellie Murray was on ABC7 News 3 p.m. program "Getting Answers" Thursday to share her calculations.
    First, we have to understand a virus' effective Reproductive Number, or Re, the number of people an infected person will transmit to. It needs to stay under one, as in each infected person transmits to fewer than one other person, for us to suppress and beat the virus.
    With the original COVID-19 strain, each infected person passed it on to an estimated 3 people without intervention. At our nation's current 50% vaccination rate, and vaccine efficacy at 95%, the Re is 1.575, not good enough. But at 75% vaccination rate, a lofty goal that mirrors the Bay Area but far surpasses much of the nation, the Re is 0.86, enough to defeat the virus:
    Re=3*(1-0.5*0.95) = 1.575
    Re=3(1-.75*.95)=0.86 <1
    However, the Delta variant is much more transmissible, so Dr. Murray replaced the 3 with an 8, the number of people one person might pass it on to without mitigation.
    The more the virus spreads, the more it has "ample opportunity" to mutate, Dr. Anthony Fauci told anchor "GMA" George Stephanopoulos Thursday.
    She also brought the vaccine efficacy rate to 85%, while acknowledging the latest studies suggest the number could be even lower. And now, you can see the Re at 50% vaccination is 4.6, much too high. And even if we achieve a national 75% vaccination rate, the Re would still be 2.9. With one infected person infecting nearly 3 others, that will not end the pandemic.
    Even if 100% of people got vaccinated, that would not bring the effective reproductive number under 1. Hence, other mitigation measures are needed, such as masking:
    Re=8(1-.5*.85) = 4.6
    Re=8(1-.75*.85)=2.9
    Even if the 50% who've already gotten the shots received a booster, that would make only a small dent and not nearly as impactful as getting new people vaccinated.
    Even if we can't get rid of the virus entirely, the vaccines can help get rid of the "disease" in the form of worst outcomes. She says the math shows that the end game is vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate.



     
  20. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    So now he is guilty until proven innocent?
     

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