Covid 19

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Wayne Stollings, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Also "nobody" does not require an "everyone" rebuttal, just a singular person is sufficient to disprove the claim, but then again it is Buzz that is jumping in where he is clearly over his head intellectually.
     
  2. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Assuming we did not continue other methods of mitigation, such as social distancing and using masks, but then again a solution was not the reason for your post was it.
     
  3. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Between you and ACW and your ignorant spin/ comprehension issues to what you post, y’all stay confused by your spin tactics. Oh and your lame lies too.
    it wasn’t a quote from Jesse’s post. It was words from your own empty head. This was from you.

    “ Nobody wants to talk about “.
    Again you are not the mouthpiece of everyone here. I’m sure there are some that appreciates
    what Jesse posts here.
     
  4. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

    Yes. As demonstrated time and again ACW is this stupid and his spin reflects as much.
     
  5. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Yes, they have been attacking the vaccine, and spreading Monetized YouTube content from already debunked crackpots. Not once have they shown any concern for unvaccinated folks who are like sitting ducks right now to the Delta variant. If most of the country had been vaccinated, we would have seen a much lower spread of the Delta variant than we’re seeing today. All of our reputable and experienced epidemiologists have been saying so for months, but they still choose to quote and post debunked YouTube crackpots concealing their financial motivations. And that’s why Jesse was trying to infer that
    “nobody makes money on YouTube anymore”. It’s like he’s trying to say that all of these YouTube content creators are putting up their videos from the “kindness of their hearts” and not making a dime from it….What a JOKE! Of course they are, and if anything motivates Americans these days, even if they have to lie, cheat, or steal to do it, it’s making money. We could have stopped this virus in its tracks, but no thanks to those on here, and their cohorts across the country spreading disinformation, your nefarious contributions have likely turned this pandemic into an endemic disease - staying with us from now on, as a stark reminder of our incompetence and neglect.
     
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  6. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    When you are just THAT clueless you should not make wild statements which are easily proven to be false.

     
  7. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    One of us is THAT stupid, but it is not me ......
     
  8. BuzzMyMonkey

    BuzzMyMonkey Well-Known Member

  9. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    How often do you hear on the local news or the national news that they are showing the counts of total breakthrough cases? What percentative of new cases are among fully vaccinated?
     
  10. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    The question here has nothing to do with “guilt” or “innocence”. This is an issue that pertains to the fact that content creators can STILL make money on YouTube, and it doesn’t matter if the content they post is true or false, or outrageous. (Actually, the more “negative”, or “outrageous” it is, the more people will click on it!) The “Attention Economy” is only concerned with the amount of “eyeballs” that click on a video, like moths to a flame. That is where the money is made between advertisers and content creators. YouTube’s YPP policy is just a way to get rid of unproductive content creators, and reward advertising dollars to more productive YouTubers (those with more content and larger viewing audiences), and unfortunately, Dr. Bridle falls into that category of YouTube content creators.

    This YouTube YPP strategy guarantees that advertisers will get a minimum number of viewers from the “big fish” content creators, while the “little fish” content creators swim away without access to advertising profit. And if there’s money lying on the table, I seriously doubt that any “big fish” content creator will walk away from it, especially since they typically spend a lot of their time creating their content, and for some, it’s almost a full-time job. And I don’t know very many people these days who work part-time, or full-time without getting financially compensated for their time and effort.
     
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  11. lawnboy

    lawnboy Well-Known Member

    1) SARS-COV2 is a respiratory virus like the flu. But it is a once-a-century flu, which means it is extremely dangerous when it appears and affects "nonstandard" populations due to no existing native antibodies.
    2) Every flu requires a yearly shot if you want the best chance of avoiding it.
    3) "Generic flu" cases were almost 0% last season
    4) You can still get the "generic flu" if you get a flu shot
    5) Annual "Generic flu" shots (basically boosters designed for various variants) have been recommended for certain populations without controversy for a hundred years.
    6) SARS-COV2 will eventually become more-benign and probably be handled in a standard flu shot in 10 years

    These are all clear-cut facts. Why are they so hard for some people to acknowledge as such?

    RE #3: Do you non-believers have any conspiracy theory for the elephant-in-the-room gigantic billboard fact of why there was no flu last season? The answer is masks. There is NO other answer that explains it. None. Zero.

    RE #6: Do you non-believers have any conspiracy theory for why stopping taking an antibiotic too early in the course of your prescription leads to a medically well-documented resurgence of the bacterial infection in your body, allowing it to "resurge" worse than it was initially? Regarding the COVID virus, If you non-maskers had worn a BASIC mask last season and did not allow the virus to "colonize" as many people (think of the bacterial analogy as the US population being a singular body), we wouldn't be seeing a resurgence now. You don't like the fact that the CDC is telling us we need not only a booster shot for a variant (delta). Newflash: that variant didn't have to exist if the non-maskers and anti-vaxxers had done their patriotic duty as Americans to MASK UP and VAX UP when asked. Now you complain that "it's all a scam, it's all a phony effort at control," because the CDC now recommends N95 masks to contain the virus spread, because it is 1000x more concentrated - all because YOU refused to do your part in "taking your medicine" for the good of "the body."

    Your paranoia and OAN/Fox-***ckerCarlson Koolaid has made you a part of the body that a surgeon would remove or amputate if this were a personal medical emergency. And while you fight against "the body" of your fellow Americans, I wonder how many of you have a 50 foot pole with an American flag planted in your front yard?
     
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  12. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    I don't disagree with your 6 points, but I want to underline one part you mentioned.

    RE3 - social distancing, lockdowns, a heightened sense of personal hygeine, all of those contribute as well. As well as other factors such as people avoiding the doctor more so less testing.

    RE6 - how do you control the remainder of the 7+ billion people in the world where most (if not all) of the variants actually originate and come from?
     
  13. lawnboy

    lawnboy Well-Known Member

    Jesse,

    Give me a break. Thanks.

    PS: you avoided all the other points that currently, COVID IS NOT THE BASIC FLU. FFS

    PPS: Social distancing DOESNT WORK NOW because Delta is 1000x more concentrated - unless your definition of social distancing means lockdowns again and truly not leaving the house for ANY purpose.

    Get the damn vaccine. You are infringing on MY PERSONAL RIGHTS as a FREE AMERICAN to breathe non-infected air.

    They charge drug suppliers with murder now who sell drugs to people who overdose and die. Maybe they should start doing the same with anti-vaxxers who are actively choosing to kill people?
     
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  14. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Can none of you comprehend English? The statement was concerning Buzz's claim that you did not say "nobody want to talk about"
     
  15. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Take your pick on the mentions:


    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...-000-fully-vaccinated-americans-have-n1275500
    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...cines-and-breakthrough-covid-cases-in-the-u-s

    Delta Cases
    Percentage of sequenced and genotyped delta cases from Feb. 1 to July 19 by vaccination status

    Source: Public Health England Technical Briefing 19

    Note: Unlinked sequences aren’t matched to individuals so vaccination status is unknown.

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/heal...breakthrough-hospitalization-death/index.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/10/bre...hy-fully-vaccinated-people-can-get-covid.html

    https://abc7chicago.com/covid-breakthrough-cdc-data/10923757/

    https://www.newsobserver.com/news/article253202768.html

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/symptomat...19-infections-rare-cdc-data/story?id=79048589

    https://www.cbs17.com/news/north-ca...ovid-19-case-numbers-the-wrong-way-heres-why/
     
  16. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

  17. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

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  18. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    But the vaccine does not stop you from spreading the virus. So how does that stop you from breathing non-infected air?

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02187-1

    Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.
     
  19. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

  20. DWK

    DWK Well-Known Member

    Looks like you’re “cherry-picking” once again, and deliberately leaving out important information. Here’s a quote from the rest of that Nature article that you posted, which encourages people to wear masks while the Delta variant continues to be studied. Also note that “breakthrough infections” are very minuscule in vaccinated people.
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