To My Knowledge Sheriff Bizzlle is the only one I have heard of that has a program of door to door monitoring of registered sex offenders. If anyone is worried about smokeing in jail, dont commit a crime and you can smoke all you want.
Bizzell has turned this county around. He gets my vote and... boo freakin hoo a criminal can't have a smoke. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
I think the point Clif was trying to make earlier is that you don't have to be a criminal (convicted) to be in the county jail...just arrested. Big difference.
As I said before, not that y'all will understand, but jail isn't just for criminals. It's also a holding area for those who have only been charged. Now if y'all can get your two brain cells to talk to each other, you might just understand that charged does not equal guilty. In other words, not every one who's in jail committed a crime nor is a criminal. Police mistakes, cases of mistaken identity, or even false charges can cause someone to be put in jail until the facts are straightened out. Perhaps something like this is far too simple for such geniuses as yourselves to understand unless you've been in that situation. Alas, though, for our justice system to know that there are actually people in this world who believe that a person must be guilty. After all the police don't arrest honest people, right?
Cliff, I see your point, but I honestly don't see the harm in NOT letting someone smoke in jail. No one ever died from NOT smoking. Withdrawal sucks from what I understand, but it ain't going to kill you. Course, others around you might WANT to kill you.................. :wink: I just don't have a problem with anyone who is arrested not being able to smoke, guilty or innocent. Bigger things to worry about.........
Steve B is very concerned and involved with Senior Citizens. He has helped a lot of Seniors, and I really appreciate that. From what I hear, he has a soft spot for children, single mom's and the elderly. That is the type of person we need to be running the County. VOTE FOR SHERIFF BIZZELL!
Clif writes; "Mr. Bizzell has no right to take away my right to smoke. I had no idea that this was the case. Thanks for letting me know. I now know who NOT to vote for." If you make your decision on who to vote for because Mr. Bizzel banned smoking in jail then I say Sheriff Bizzell does not need your vote. Very narrow minded. There are more serious issues in Johnston County than a non smoking policy in the county jail. Sheriff Bizzell has been a good sheriff.
He has already stated that he would not let this be the main driver of his vote. I don't smoke myself, but I agree with Clif, if I am innocent until proven guilty, at least for a little while longer this is suppose to be the law of the land, what right do you have to keep me from this legal activity. I can understand the safety of the whole concern, but provide me a smoking area!
I guess I don't understand this argument. Many hospitals have a no smoking policy. If someone is taken to the emergency room, can't get outside to smoke, has the hospital taken away their rights? Many public buildings, airports, etc. also have no smoking policies. No smoking in the Johnston County Jail has nothing to do with an individual's rights. FYI there are many jails in this country that have a no smoking policy. Johnston County was not the first to take this action.
No smoking in an emergency room is a no brain-er, but most hospitals will let you go outside and smoke if you want, same with the other public buildings, jails typically won't let you step outside for a smoke. Regarding other jails, didn't your Mother ever talk about the other kids jumping off a cliff?
My question to you is, why the hell would you want to smoke if you were in an emergency room anyway? If you are there I think you're there for a good reason.. besides, with all the pure oxygen around I don't think I would want to take the chance to lite up! I believe the no smoking is about safety......
ALL Wake County hospitals have gone completely non-smoking. That means on the grounds, so employees no longer even have a place to smoke outdoors.
Actually it violates NC statute § 143‑597 which reads: (Emphesis mine) In NC, when a building is listed as non-smoking, at least 20% (or as much of 20% as possible) must be allowed as a smoking area.
Not quite that way when you read the whole statue: § 143‑597. Nonsmoking areas in State‑controlled buildings. (a) All of the following areas may be designated as nonsmoking in buildings owned, leased, or occupied by State government: (1) Any library open to the public. (2) Any museum open to the public. (3) Any area established as a nonsmoking area, so long as at least twenty percent (20%) of the interior space of equal quality to that of the nonsmoking area shall be designated as a smoking area, unless physically impracticable. If physically impracticable, the person in charge of the facility shall provide an adequate smoking area within the facility as near as feasible to twenty percent (20%) of the interior space. (4) Any indoor space in a State‑controlled building such as an auditorium, arena, or coliseum, or an appurtenant building thereof; except that a designated area for smoking shall be established in lobby areas. (5) Any educational buildings primarily involved in health care instruction. (6) University of North Carolina health services facilities, wellness centers, enclosed physical education facilities, enclosed student recreational centers, laboratories, or residence halls, provided that each constituent institution shall make a reasonable effort to provide residential smoking rooms in residence halls in proportion to student demand for those rooms. (b) Any area designated as nonsmoking or smoking shall be established by the appropriate department, institution, agency, or person in charge of the State‑controlled building or area. The person in charge of the building shall conspicuously post or cause to be posted, in any area designated as a smoking or nonsmoking area, one or more signs stating that smoking is or is not permitted in the area. (c) Where a nonsmoking area is designated, existing physical barriers and ventilation systems shall be used where appropriate to minimize smoke from adjacent areas. This subsection shall not be construed to require fixed structural or other physical modification in providing these areas or to require installation or operation of any heating, ventilating, or air‑conditioning system in any manner which adds expense. (1993, c. 367, s. 1; 2003‑292, s. 1.) Plus 143-599 lists the exceptions to 143-597: § 143‑599. Exemptions. All of the following facilities shall be exempt from the provisions of this Article: (1) Any primary or secondary school or child care center, except for a teacher's lounge. (2) An enclosed elevator. (3) Public school bus. (4) Hospital, nursing home, rest home, and State facility operated under the authority of G.S. 122C‑181. (5) Local health department and local department of social services and the building and grounds where the local health department or local department of social services, as applicable, is located. For the purposes of this subdivision, "grounds" means the area located within 50 linear feet of a local health department or a local department of social services. (6) Any nonprofit organization or corporation whose primary purpose is to discourage the use of tobacco products by the general public. (7) Tobacco manufacturing, processing, and administrative facilities. (8) Indoor arenas with a seating capacity greater than 23,000. (9) State correctional facilities operated by the Department of Correction. (1993, c. 367, s. 1; 1997‑506, s. 53; 2005‑19, s. 1; 2005‑168, s. 1; 2005‑239, s. 1; 2005‑372, s. 1.)
You answered your own questions Clif...its a county jail run by the sheriff's department it is not state-controlled(owned). Its county owned and controlled. § 143‑597. Nonsmoking areas in State‑controlled buildings. (a) All of the following areas may be designated as nonsmoking in buildings owned, leased, or occupied by State government: Plus: § 143‑601. Applicability of Article; local government may enact. ...Any such local ordinance, law, or rule may restrict smoking in accordance with this subsection only in the following facilities pursuant to G.S. 143‑597: (1) Buildings owned, leased or occupied by local government.
I was about to say we were at Rex not too long ago and there's a smoking section outside. So, nothing on the grounds huh? Isn't that descrimination against the smokers?
Do you believe it's ok to feed you bread and water? Get serious. There's a huge difference between allowing a suspected criminal to bring in weapons and allowing them to smoke. Yes it is, but it's acceptable discrimination these days.
