ANGELEYES - about gossip, slander & lies

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by MommySAIDno, Oct 5, 2007.

  1. MommySAIDno

    MommySAIDno Well-Known Member

    ANGELEYES

    Hey AA,
    I was reading your post in the other thread. When Clif said we just went through this with someone else on here, he was speaking about me.
    I wanted to respond to you and I started to do it in that thread, but my response got a bit lengthy and I decided to bring it to a new thread since this is not really a "random" thought:mrgreen:

    Anyway, the advice I got on here was very helpful too.
    The thing about my situation was that I did know the neighbors Their kids started saying stuff to MY kids about me and DH, gossip they heard from their parents. Sad thing is, these neighbors who have been told lies about us and decided to no longer associate with us (except for allowing their kids to come over and play in our yard with our kids every day), profess to be good strong Christian people. So, they believe a viscous lie, spread it further and look down their noses at us.

    Yeah, it hurts. But, like Clif said, I do realize that if they were true friends, they would never have bought the lies in the first place. They did, so, who need or wants that kind of hypocrite around anyway.

    We are Christians and that does NOT mean we are perfect. I don't expect Christian friends to be perfect either, but, like I've said before, I DO expect them to have a conscience. I just think about this when it comes up: James 1:26 says If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. I think that about sums my "lie believing and gossip spreading" neighbors up to a Tee.

    In your case, I know it hurts. I'd be upset too. I assume you do not have children?? So you will not have to worry about protecting them from the slanderous gossip. But if she keeps it up, it could harm your reputation which could cause bigger problems. I think it would be in your best interest to research "slander". I have done just that myself. Maybe print out the definition of it and place it on her mailbox one day. Be sure to include the possible legal actions that can be taken when slander is proven. Or, maybe just go introduce yourself to her and tell her you are not a whore and that is you Dad & brothers she is seeing. If you don't want to face her, write a note. Let her know that you know what she is doing and she should stop.

    Clearly, the woman is jealous of you if she threatens her husband if he talks to you. Clif is right, it shouldn't matter what she says about you as long as you know the truth. But, in reality (and usually more often in women, Clif;) ), it does matter to us. You know the old saying "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me" WRONG!!! If that's the case then why do we care if our husband/wife calls us a name? Why do we care when "friends" gossip about us?

    The truth is, bones mend much faster than hearts do. And, whether they should or not, words hurt very much. Even the Bible tells us this is true: Proverbs 12:18 says: Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. and, Proverbs 18:21 says: The tongue has the power of life and death, and those who love it will eat it's fruit.

    Hopefully, your friends and neighbors who know you will not buy the lies. "A wicked man listens to evil lips; a liar pays attention to a malicious tongue." (Proverbs 17:4) I hope your "friends" treat you better than some of mine have. Maybe my "friends" who bought the lies really do know what they have done is wrong and are just too ashamed to make it right. After all, their young children spend several hours almost every single day playing in my yard under my care. If I really believed a person was a bad person, no way would my kids hang out in their yard. BTW, I've said before, I don't mind all the kids in my yard because I love them all and enjoy them playing here.

    Here are a few more verses you might like to read. It helped me to know how God feels about gossip, lies, slander & judging others. I guess it helped to validate my feelings. I know, I know, it would be so easy if I could just "not care". But, for whatever reason, I do. I think most people do. And I think God knew just how dangerous the tongue could be - how much pain it could cause and that's why He spoke of it so many times in His Word (and there are many more than I have listed here). Why would God think the tongue could be so dangerous if He didn't know that we, as human beings, do hurt when lies are told about us. Anyway, this has helped me so much. No matter what your faith, maybe you can find comfort in these words too. They are good reminders for us all, (myself included). It's not just YOU who finds a lying, slanderous tongue offensive. Clearly, God does too.
    Hope this helps some.:-D

    Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
    James 4:11 Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.

    Proverbs 10:18 He that hideth hatred with lying lips, and he that uttereth slander, is a fool.

    Proverbs 20:3 It is an honor for a man to cease from strife, but every fool will be meddling

    Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly

    Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

    Psalm 64:3 They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim their words like deadly arrows.

    Psalm 64:8 He will turn their own tongues against them and bring them to ruin; all who see them will shake their heads in scorn.

    Psalm 120:2 Save me, O LORD, from lying lips and from deceitful tongues

    Psalm139:4 Before a word is on my tongue you know it completely, O LORD.

    Proverbs 10:20 The tongue of the righteous is choice silver, but the heart of the wicked is of little value.

    Psalm 140:3 They make their tongues as sharp as a serpent's; the poison of vipers is on their lips. Selah

    Proverbs 15:4 The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life, but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit.

    Proverbs 15:2 The tongue of the wise commends knowledge, but the mouth of the fool gushes folly.

    Proverbs 17:20 A man of perverse heart does not prosper; he whose tongue is deceitful falls into trouble.

    Proverbs 21:23 He who guards his mouth and his tongue keeps himself from calamity.

    Proverbs 26:28 A lying tongue hates those it hurts, and a flattering mouth works ruin

    Isaiah 59:3 For your hands are stained with blood, your fingers with guilt. Your lips have spoken lies, and your tongue mutters wicked things.

    Jeremiah9:3 They make ready their tongue like a bow, to shoot lies; it is not by truth that they triumph in the land. They go from one sin to another; they do not acknowledge me," declares the LORD.

    Jeremiah 9:8 Their tongue is a deadly arrow; it speaks with deceit. With his mouth each speaks cordially to his neighbor, but in his heart he sets a trap for him.

    James 3:5 Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark.

    James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

    James 3:8 but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

    1Samuel 24:12 May the LORD judge between you and me. And may the LORD avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you.

    Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged

    Luke 6:37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

    Colossians 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

    Exodus 23:1 "Do not spread false reports. Do not help a wicked man by being a malicious witness.

    Proverbs 12:17 A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.

    Proverbs 14:5 A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

    Proverbs 14:25 A truthful witness saves lives, but a false witness is deceitful.

    Proverbs 19:5 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free.

    Proverbs 19:9 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will perish.

    Proverbs 21:28 A false witness will perish, and whoever listens to him will be destroyed forever. [ Or / but the words of an obedient man will live on ]

    Proverbs 11:13 A gossip betrays a confidence, but a trustworthy man keeps a secret.

    Proverbs 16:28 A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends

    Proverbs 18:8 The words of a gossip are like choice morsels; they go down to a man's inmost parts.

    Proverbs 20:19 A gossip betrays a confidence; so avoid a man who talks too much

    Proverbs 26:20 Without wood a fire goes out; without gossip a quarrel dies down

    2 Corinthians 12:20 For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.

    1 Timothy 5:13 Besides, they get into the habit of being idle and going about from house to house. And not only do they become idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying things they ought not to.
     
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  2. MommySAIDno

    MommySAIDno Well-Known Member

    Hi again AA,
    Wondering how your situation is going. Mine is not much better. So many of the things my once "friends" have done to me & my family keep coming to light. (That's the thing about people who lie and gossip, eventually, the people you gossip too are going to want to tell the world about the gossip you spread and it always seems to come back and bite the one who started it in the butt.):twisted:

    I guess I just tend to give people too many chances because I want to believe the good in them will eventually prevail. But I am realizing that some people are not what they appear to be on the outside. Some people are just complete hypocrits and should be avoided because they are dangerous in their endless deceptions.:?


    Sorry to vent. Today, I am feeling pretty sick inside thinking of what a once "friend" has stooped so low to do to me.:-( Guess I need to re-read the verses above again for comfort now. I know my God knows the truth and I know He will deal with this. But I still just can;t believe what people are capable of.:shock: :-(
     
  3. MommySAIDno

    MommySAIDno Well-Known Member

    Hey AA - I think you went away for a while. Not sure you saw this. Hows it going now. Here - still about the same garbage going on.:roll: :evil:
     
  4. Angeleyes

    Angeleyes Guest

    I have nothing really to deal with I still don't know who the woman was. I have decided I don't care what anyone says about me, I like me and thats all that counts. lol Its probably some woman who is bored and has to event things to say about people . I guess a woman living alone is going to be gossiped about. I don't bother anyone in my neighborhood I am polite and keep my yard up. My child isn't a hell raiser ( yet lol) my dog dosen't poop in other peoples yard. so what ever problems this woman has are most likely something to do with herself image not me. I just wish people would mind their own buissness and look at their own life and stop talking about everyone that they don't even know. Maybe in a perfect world. If I find out who she is I may be naughty however. hehehe
     

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