ANOTHER school shooting!

http://www.wral.com/news/9963377/detail.html

This is really upsetting! It's obviously too easy for these wackos to get into the schools! I think we as a community need to stand up and make our schools harder to access for just Joe Schmoe off the street! This is a place our children should feel safe and we as parents should feel they are safe to be educated. My God, this is just getting to be too many of these! Let's do something to reduce the chance of it happening here!

 

What do you suggest?

 

First, I will be talking to the principal or his asst. about exactly what kind of saftey measures they have in place and express my concerns, then go from there. I know of other parents that have the same concerns. One morning before school started, my sil was waiting to get into the school for a meeting w/ a teacher, the main door was locked, but the side doors were open for anyone to get in! What is the point of that?! "You parents have to wait by the front door to be met by the teacher your appt. is with, but all the rest of the public, ya'll can come right in our side doors!"

Of course if anyone has any other suggestions, that woudl be great. But I thought that would be a good place to start. I mean I know we can't always totally stop something from happening, but at least we can do our best to help try to prevent it right? What do you think Clif?

 

Personally I can't think of a thing that hasn't been done, aside from turning our schools into prisons. That's why I asked.

 

The last thing they should do is tell you the security measures they have in place.

 

That's true! Sorry, I said that wrong. I mean I want to know things like, yes we are going to keep the side doors locked so not just anyone can wander in, yes we are going to check id's so an unauthorized person doesn't pick up a child, yes we are monitoring the front door, etc.

 

Yeah, it's sad that that's about all we have left to do these days isn't it? Lock the kids up in school. Ugh, the good old days when we didn't have to worry about that so much. (at least I don't remember worrying about things like this when I was in school, doesn't mean it didn't ever happen though)

 

I am so glad you practice "Lock Down" drills frequently at my school. It kinda freaks me out everytime we do them though because just the thought of it... We didn't have to do that back when I was a student. Boy, how times have changed.

 

Metal detectors at the door? BTW, I can walk in to Cleveland Middle anytime I want. The sixth grade and seventh grade doors are always open and unlocked. I have asked the front desk many many times. Maybe if more people call it will be changed?

Just an opinion.

 

It's stuff like this that wakes me up in the middle of the night.

Pirategirl, I don't remember ever having anything other than fire drills, and the occasional tornado drill when I was in school, but MM says they do those drills all the time now.

It's a damn shame if you ask me. Maybe home schooling is the way to go?

 

Hi, here you are again. Tearing apart my post. Don't worry your little self about what hours I keep. I don't feel that I have to report that to you. You don't know what family I have around. I might have a neice or nephew that goes there? That would be none of your concern. DUHHHHHHH. When my son attended the doors were never locked and I was there with my neice/nephew and they still were open.
Don't worry I have computer access from work. now that being said. I'd like to leave you with one thought...unfortunately I ain't sure you have anywhere to put it!

Ben

 

Interesting point Ken yet a significant amount of the children in our society spend the first 5 years of their lives pretty much caged in one room 10+ hours a day, five days a week.

 

If your son is now 17, he went there when there were several trailers at the end of each hall as extra classrooms. The doors HAD to be unlocked so the students could come in for their lockers, the bathrooms, and the rest of their classes! Now the doors at the ends of the halls are kept locked since no one has need to go in and out them during the school day.

 

that is because she has another son that is 11 or 12 or somewhere around that age.

 

Please don't call me a she. Why don't you just open your mind and shut your mouth, both are empty anyway.
Oops, I mean here is your smiley to----------->:roll:
Ben

 

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You and ken bring most of it on. It stops when you do. Pray for yourself to be able to stop. It's just that simple. In this thread I made a comment about metal detectors and here you guys come. It's Obvious. Go ahead, look back.

 

Life changes. We can remember the "good ole days" all we want but change is inevitable. The sad part on this topic, is it's changed for the bad. I cringe everytime someone makes a new cry for increased security measures. When does it stop, as one post said in here "turn schools into jails"?

YOU provide the security!! Teach your children what to do when and if they are in the situation. If you don't know, do the research and find out what to do like many of us already have. You can't stop what's happening, you can only prepare for the occurance. There's always that bank that can't be robbed and is robbed. The same applies here. You can impliment all the security you want but someone will find a way around it.

Quit being such woosies, whining and demanding protection from the government, and start using precautionary measures to protect yourself and your children. Also, the darn schools can't afford paper. Where do you propose they get the millions to provide security systems? Do people think before they speak anymore?

 

You have a good point DD. I think the state can find the money for security though.

 

I remember how the government found money for security when the school shootings started in the 1990s: they cut all school nurse positions, removed many art/drama/music positions and hired resource officers for middle and high schools. So the children were supposedly :?: safer (but wait! A gunman drove past security booth and shot at a school in Orange County just weeks ago....), there were important personnel and programs missing in schools. I doubt any WJHS band parent would want to give up the band program to put in security systems like metal detectors. Would you want middle schools to give up all electives like art, chorus, strings, and band in order to have a resource officer there? Since that officer is physically incapable of being in all places at once, does his or her presence really make the school safer?

There was a study done in the late 1990s and reported briefly on either Dateline or 20/20 (I can't remember which. It may have been 60 Minutes) in which it was discovered that most school shooters who are teenagers actually have VERY high self-esteem. They felt completely justified in shooting their fellow students. This was contrary to the belief that they felt so badly about themselves that the schools needed to teach them to have high self-esteem. Think about that. Children who are taught they are perfect and wonderful and they are always right are the types of children who have shot and killed teachers, principals, and classmates!