Covid 19

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Wayne Stollings, Mar 19, 2021.

  1. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Why? The smaller pool does not impact the statistics being presented because that figure is below the population percentage you gave.
     
  2. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    Total Population: 10,500,000
    Vaccinated: 6,642,000
    First of 2 dose: 6,170,000
    Single shot dose: 472,000
    Fully Vaccinated: 5,735,000
    With Booster: 2,693,000
    Unvaccinated: 3,858,000

    https://covid19.ncdhhs.gov/dashboard/vaccinations

    Percentage of population:
    Fully Vaccinated in hospital with covid-19 - 0.0010%
    Boosted in hospital with covid-19 - 0.0008%
    Unvaccinated in hospital - 0.0040%

    So while there is only 21 boosted in the hospital vs the 58, it actually represents almost the same percentage of the population. 8 thousandths vs 10 thousandths
     
  3. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    First, you have butchered the concept of accurate statistics so badly it is not funny. You are falsely assuming the entire state population tracks from the information from Duke University Health System, not the data for the area served by DUHS.

    Second, you falsely assuming the percentage of those in the hospital should be compared to the total number of those boosted and not the total number in the hospital.

    IF we assume the state data is the same as the area serviced by DUHS, the percentage of the population which is boosted is 25.65%, which when compared to the percentage of the hospitalized population which has been boosted of 10%, shows less than half the percentage expected if the population carried through.

    The percentage of unvaccinated population is 36.74% compared to the unvaccinated hospital population is about twice that at 73%.

    That is the correct way to compare population percentages.
     
  4. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    It's comparing the percentages, not looking at the actual percentages. Obviously the percentages of the population are not accurate since it's just one system. But the comparison between the two should be fairly accurate. Assuming that the people that are nearby the Duke system are vaccinated and boosted at the same percentage as the state.
     
  5. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    It is comparing two numbers, but the numbers are not related as you wish to believe. You cannot accurately try to compare the two as any basic statistics class would have taught you. There are two cohorts to be compared to determine the percentage relationship. The number of vaccinated, boosted, and unvaccinated within the general population and the same data for those within the hospitalized population. Those two can be accurately compared but trying to compare the general population percentage to the percentage of the general population which is hospitalized and vaccinated, etc. cannot.

    If you doubt this, all you have to do is look at the data on incarcerations. The percentage of the different ethnic groups within the general population and the same groups which are incarcerated are compared to determine whether the percentages are similar or not. They do not try to compare the general population percentage of the specific ethnic groups to each other because it does not give any usable data.
     
  6. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

  7. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    IF we assume the state data is the same as the area serviced by DUHS, the percentage of the population which is boosted is 25.65%, which when compared to the percentage of the hospitalized population which has been boosted of 10%, shows less than half the percentage expected if the population carried through.

    The percentage of unvaccinated population is 36.74% compared to the unvaccinated hospital population is about twice that at 73%.

    That is the correct way to compare these two population percentages, share of NC population vaccinated, boosted, unvaccinated to share of DUHS hospitalized population vaccinated, boosted, unvaccinated, assuming the NC population data is the same as the DUHS data.
     
  8. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

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  10. jesse82nc

    jesse82nc Well-Known Member

    NJ2NC, BuzzMyMonkey and NOT WOKE like this.
  11. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    That natural immunity factor did not help Glenn Beck.

    https://www.newsweek.com/glenn-beck...nd-covid-bout-thats-little-disturbing-1669230

    Glenn Beck Says He's Taking Ivermectin for Second COVID Bout That's 'a Little Disturbing'
    BY AILA SLISCO ON 1/13/22 AT 6:24 PM EST


    Conservative talk radio host Glenn Beck has announced that he is taking ivermectin and other unapproved and unproven COVID-19 treatments due to a second "disturbing" bout of the virus that has gone to his lungs.

    Beck said that he was "on all the medications and treatments" during a Wednesday interview on Mark Levin's radio show. The Blaze Media founder and former Fox News personality, who previously recovered from a December 2020 COVID-19 case, greeted Levin by saying that he was feeling "great" despite his second infection.
     
  12. markfnc

    markfnc Well-Known Member

    some stats i saw. Can't get direct link to article .

    COVID CASES USA
    889,613 JAN 13 2022
    246,706 JAN 13 2021

    DEATHS
    2,224 JAN 13 2022
    3,930 JAN 13 2021
     
  13. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Looks like the vaccine is doing its job, 360% of the case rate with 56.6% of the death rate compared to last year.
     
  14. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    Covid-19 Hospitalization Cases USA

    137,931 Jan 12 2022
    127,744 Jan 12 2021

    Covid-19 ICU Cases USA

    23,800 Jan 12 2022
    28,522 Jan 12 2021

    The similarity is that on both dates the hospitalization and ICU cases are primarily unvaccinated individuals
     
  15. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

  16. Hught

    Hught Well-Known Member

    Typically those are the numbers the Drudge Report gives and usually they are a little higher than those given by the CDC. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases
     
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