Just wondering. I applied for a job with a local government agency and was refused for being honest on my application. No, I don't mean that I have a criminal history. I've never been in trouble with the law in my life. I've never stolen anything either. BUT, the question was, and I quote, "Have you EVER experimented or tried any illegal drugs in your lifetime?" Now, seeing as how this was a government agency, I figured it was best to tell the truth, otherwise they could find out later. So, my answer was yes. It also had a place to explain if the answer happened to be yes. So, I went on telling about my teenage years and "other kids were doing it" so I decided just to try. I've never been addicted to anything but smoking cigarettes, nor am I on any drugs now. I'm a grown-up, married with children mom. Yes, so what, I tried marijuana when I was a teenager. When I went in to talk with them, they clearly and plainly stated that since I had tried drugs when I was younger and openly admitted it, that they would not hire me. Well, I guess being honest in this world sometimes doesn't pay off. See, what if I had lied? What would've happened, being a government agency, to me if they caught me in a lie? I also figured that, being the type of government agency it was, that THAT little knowledge could be helpful in some instances. I guess I could understand that they wouldn't hire me if it had been within like 10 years ago or more recent, but this was more than 15 years ago. Maybe I am wrong for thinking this way. Maybe noone that works in our local government has ever tried drugs in their lifetime....or maybe they're all liars.
What you should of said was "I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale and never tried it again." Not only would you have gotten the job they would of made you President
Mine was a part time evening position at a Home Improvement store, hahahah, it was for x-tra income..... 2nd job :lol::lol::lol:it was some kind of character test.... and I failed on a question about lettin some elderly person slide on short changin me or something like that, it was stupid..... but whatever, I didn't get the job..... but I can do taxes..... what a joke...... anyway... I guess honesty doesnt always pay......:jester:
BILL CLINTON HE Said that he never inhaled the stuff. and became President. I have also been turned away for Honesty. I have learned to just tell them what they want to hear , Not what they want to know.
The job market in the U.S. has become a joke. "Human Resource" jerks have to make you laugh. Now your chance of employment is rated in so many different ways it takes a psychologist to fill out the darn application for you. And would someone please tell me why you have to check my credit for a job position that does not deal with the money in a company?? The short of it, employers can do any darn thing they want any darn time they want to. The mere fact that the current law does not give you the right to an unpaid lunch break is proof enough. And they wonder why workman comp claims have doubled???
Well, I guess they'd rather have someone that isn't honest, smokes marijuana and steals from the company. Oh, yes it was a law enforcement position. The worst part of it is that I had several EXCELLENT references working in law enforcement and it was all going good till the honesty part....go figure. I'm also sorry that it has happened to others. I know how it feels and it's "not cool". Thanks for helping me keep my chin up. I think I'd rather work for a company that strives on honesty....is there even one out there??? :-O
Can they really PROVE that you smoked marijuana in your teenage years? The proof on your body is gone and the people that witnessed it wouldn't remember anyhow. I would have lied.
I believe in honesty always pays. This past year I went to Maryland with the West Johnston marching band to a competition. During our stay at a small inn I found 5 one hundred dollars bills in the bathroom behind the toilet. I turned the money into the owner of the inn who thought I had lost my mind. I told him it wasn't my money and the owner would probably call for it when they realized it was missing. My hunch was the money belong to a man who probably was going to take a shower and like most men do take there pants off and swing them on the bathroom floor and the money came out. The owner said he admired my honesty and if the money was not claimed he would mail me a check. About 3 weeks later I received a check from the manager for 500.00 when I called him to see if no one claimed the money, he said that someone did claim the money. I asked why I received the check he said because honesty pays honey. twitch oh I was right about my hunch it did belong to a man who swung his pants on the bathroom floor before taking a shower.
NCSBI I have gotten an interview with the NCSBI for a sworn position and their questionnaire is not even that strict. They allow you to have smoked weed up to twenty times in you lifetime but no hard drugs like LSD and cocaine. When I filled out the questionnaire I tried not to think too hard but was still truthful. /never interviewed. Had to go to Terre Haute for a job. Money in the pocket beat a job interview.
Back in the early 70's I literally just walked out of my office and left my job. I told them I had to run an errand and I just went home and never went back!! I was fed up with the bosses and their morals. Of course they called and I just said 'I quit'. I stayed home for a few months. I went to apply for a job at BB&T. When I filled out the application I thought about just leaving that off the application. Then decided I would not. When the CEO interviewed me I told him 'if you call Mr. ? he will not give me a good reference. He ask why and I said 'I just walked out.' He said you didn't give a notice I replied 'NO'. Well. I got the job and 20 years later retired. The CEO said when he hired me ' I know you Pat and I also know Mr. ?, when can you come to work.' So, I think being honest usually pays off. Pat
It used to be that we were taught to develop and respect a moral compass. We were taught that usually, the hardest choice was the correct one. For many who look at what they perceive to be the final result, the end results justifying the means to achieve them, which suggests success by taking the shortcuts. Corporate greed, while not as great as it is perceived, still results in conduct of those who seek to get ahead, no matter what the cost. Kids on the block see some flashy drug dealer with a lifestyle they want. Contrast that with how they perceive someone who works an honest job, and yet toils for small rewards. With their never having learned the value of doing a good job because it was the thing to do, they associate honest work with less successful outcome. As a military leader, I saw too many superiors who were willing to throw juniors under a bus, to advance their own careers. When it got to be so onerous, I left. When the troops I led had no moral respect for our leaders, I knew it was time to be honest with them and myself, and find another career. As a pharmaceutical sales consultant, I had a few managers (and even more upline managers) who wanted the business, no matter the cost. That profession went from being a resource to the physician's practice to being an interruption/interference, chiefly because the mode went from "what can I do to help a physician help his patients" to "how can I get more prescriptions?" To be sure, there are other factors that affected the profession. Notably, we old "detail" men and women have no way to identify with the Ken's and Barbie's that seem to predominate a once valued industry. I will always believe that we made ourselves irrelevant, because the industry got greedy. We forgot that we were invited to help physicians, and thought that they needed us more than we needed them. That short line of thinking turned away many of our strongest supporters. And made many of us professionals ashamed of what the corporate greedy types led us to become.
