flyers about dress codes at cleveland middle school

got a flyer but the webpage would'nt work does anyone have any info on the author of the flyer, i want to thank her\him a lot of our kids at the middle school,are being bullied by someone at the school
my grandaughter was disciplined ,. kids are being harrassed about the weirdest things, that don't even involve showing too much skin and it's the girls that are well endowed that get harrassed. it's not their fault people, that they are fully developed at 12/if they were flat chested no one would complain, maybe someone is jealous of their youthful beauty. just because a girl is built beautifully, she is not immoral and no one has the right to make herl ashamed.
this has to stop, the kids have way way too much pressure just trying to fit in and feel good about themselves.
why isn't this person busy at the school with other more important issues like teaching kids about online predators,or teaching them about safe sex
what is it with these people, they use the school s here to force some fundementalist idiotic morality to our kids , and guess what, NOT EVERYONE HERE IS A FUNDEMENTALIST >>>>> : FREE COUNTRY, REMEMBER

 

Funny how grannynan writes just like the teenage MySpace crowd. :roll: Anybody from the granny generation knows how to spell and a few things about correct sentence structure. :roll:

 

My guess is this is a legitimate post. The interests in her profile don't mesh with a teenager.

As far as grammar goes, I am not so good and I am thankful for spell checkers.

 

dress code

It's interesting that the specific complaint is not mentioned, just that the girls are well endowed. Perhaps these girls are showing cleavage. Sorry, but teenage girls in middle school should not show any parts of their chests. The hormones are going crazy in some boys, and self-respecting girls would not go out of their way to become sex objects!

Parents with even a smidgen of common sense would make sure all clothing bought for their daughters would avoid skin-tight, low cut (or high cut) tops! This is not to mention the painted-on jeans that some girls wear to school. We try to tell our daughters that they should be seen as equal to boys at work and in school, but allowing them to promote their sexuality is at cross-purposes.

Having taught in middle school and high school during the past 15 years, I can tell you that girls who dress provocatively EVEN IF THEY ARE THE SWEETEST, NICEST GIRLS YOU EVER MET become the object of a lot of attention from boys and get pressured to become physical with boys because the boys see their clothing as advertising. Having taught several 12 and 13 year-old girls who were either pregnant or had just given birth (the youngest was a sixth grader with a five-month old child when she came to me in March), I don't see what's wrong with telling girls to dress appropriately for school. Go and see how many of these girls at CMS and WJHS dress like college girls going bar hopping and you will understand why the schools have to draw the line somewhere.

 

Re: dress code

I see your point, burkas for all!
8)

 

Granny,

Isnt helping them learn to dress appropriately actually teaching them about predators and safe sex? By dressing provocatively they are attracting predators. By showing cleavage they are sending messages they may not want to send, therefor may need to be practicing safe sex sooner than they planned. It is all part of the same picture.

 

Why is it at cross-purposes? I therefore assume you don't endorse wearing make-up, shaving your legs and underarms, shampooing your hair, cutting your hair, fixing your hair, ear piercing, or doing nails and painting nails, or sun-bathing? All of those activities are designed to enhance the outward appearance, thus promoting their sexuality.

Isn't this a stretch? I really fail to see the link between safe sex and appropriate dress. Besides what is appropriately? See Hught's previous post.

 

These children dont have fully developed brains at 12 and 13. Therefor they are not prepared to make rational decisions about sex.

Dressing to attract the opposite sex, while to them at this age may be innocent, can get them into situations that they are not mature enough to handle. Unfortunate they may not only be attracting boys their own age, but men who have ulterior motives. A 13 year old girl can get herself in a situation that seemed innocent enough to start with, but turns out to be something she cannot get herself out of. So appropriate dress can help avoid situations that require safe sex. (it is not the only link to avoiding these situations but can definitely be a contributing factor)

 

I think there is a difference between teaching a child how to "look good" or "look their best" rather than how to attract members of the opposite sex based on how "hot" they look. Enhancing the outward appearance with a good hair cut is actually working with your natural beauty. Honestly, I don't think 12 year old girls really need to wear make-up; they need to be taught they are beautiful without having to paint on their beauty. (Think of how many girls are convinced they are ugly because they don't look like the actresses they idolize. Never mind that actresses have professionals who do their makeup!) However, that is betweent the girl and her parents. (I do wish more mothers would stop the raccoon eyeliner look though! Just MHO!) Besides, since when does fingernail polish equal the showing of cleavage?

Unfortunately, predators sometimes are attracted to the innocence of girls who look and dress provocatively. These sick individuals will say that girls and women "asked for it" because they were "flaunting it." Is that an excuse? No, IMHO they should be castrated if they try to assault a girl or woman. Does this mean all girls who dress provocatively would be attacked? THANK GOODNESS THE ANSWER IS NO! However, they are more likely to be the victims of date rape because the boy would be more likely to go with the image she projects instead of the words she says.

 

daaa i didn't know my grammar was going to be checked,

i'm 63 in case you really care and i did not say my grandaughter was showing her clevege, i just know shes been called down several times,
she was new to the school and the first day they critized her shorts, which were'nt even short, next her jeans that had whole in the knee, (made that way) then wearing tights under a skirt, and on and on, give me a break, just make them wear uniforms if it's such a big deal but stop this nit picking and making them feel like they are shameful people

women everywhere should be able to dress with style , and not fear being molested. it's the men that should be walking around wearing
blinders if thats the only way women can be safe in this world. instead of women in berkas, let men wear bags over their heads!!!!!

 

If your granddaughter writes the way you do, ignoring good sentence structure, she is going to find that she gets called down for that also. Your arguement loses a lot of impact when your writing resembles that of an uneducated 14 year old typing on an instant message system. :wink:

 

Granny, you said only well endowed girls are having problems with the dress code so the logical conclusion is they are "flaunting" their endowment with tight shirts and/or showing cleavage.

Read the JCS dress code. It is FOR EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY, not just CMS. Shorts MUST be AT LEAST mid-thigh. If a girl has long legs, her shorts will need to be longer on her than the exact same pair of shorts on a petite girl! It also specifically says that any clothing that is INTENTIONALLY shredded, ripped, or torn is against the dress code. If she is wearing the leggings under a skirt, that is also against the rules! Once again, READ THE DRESS CODE. It is the same for all children.

Since your granddaughter is new to the school system, perhaps she should also read it! I do know that the FIRST item on the teachers' lesson plan on August 25 was going over the rules, including the dress code. If she has difficulty finding clothing in stores that meets the dress code, complain to the fashion industry that produces clothing that looks like the Hollywood stereotype of a prostitute's wardrobe.

Don't blame the schools because your granddaughter chooses to break the rules!

 

Danged ole glass houses you live in Blingo!

 

Um, hate to pick at minor things, but there really is no "sex ed" in NC. Especially in middle school. You learn the anatomy in 7th and if you ask anything else, the teacher has to just say "don't do it." Abstinence.

Everyone in the county is supposed to follow the dress code. Teachers, too. If you don't like it, talk to the school board -they make the rules.

I'd rather just teach than tell your young'un to pull up his drawers, tuck in his "dress," erm - I mean shirt, or tell your little girl to put on her jacket 'cause everything she is endowed with is public knowledge without the jacket.:roll:

Free country? Try going topless to Food Lion and see how free it is, dear. Freedom of expression has boundaries of appropriateness and decency. Your boss can ask you not to show your belly-button ring or your tattoos and can tell you not to wear your daisy-dukes in order to be professional. School is a professional learning environment, not the local hang-out or a playground. The student's job is to learn.

 

The judge for the length of the shorts/skirts/skorts for my daughter is-when she puts her arms straight to her sides fingers straight-the skirt/shorts/skorts have to be at least as long as her most outstretched finger.

As for under skirts...I'm not sure I'm understanding "leggings". I missed that in the dress code. Are you talking about tights/hose? If so, not letting them wear tights is so much worse than them going to school with a regulation length skirt and just panties IMHO. Especially for the younger ones.

 

"You go to school to learn, not for a fashion show!" - Fresh Prince

That's your parents' job!!!

 

I <3 Cleo

 

What about uniforms? If kids wore uniforms, it would cause each one to accept each other for WHO they are instead of classifying them by WHAT they're wearing. Saves alot of time and money for school clothes shopping too. We'd have more money to afford millions of supplies!!! :lol:

We all know that kids make fun of each other about clothes. Some people don't have the kind of money others do. Uniforms would cut all that junk out. 8)

Kids accepting each other for who they are.....I think THAT is a better lesson to learn than the "how to express oneself" fashion thing.

 

I like the idea of uniforms, but they are pricey!!

 

I agree 100%...you should know what the school dress code is before you start to school. I don't buy my girls clothing that is not acceptable in school...with the exception they can wear tank tops, etc. in the summer...but my girls aren't leaving my house showing body parts...period! Oh sure we go in stores and they want to buy certain things because others have them, but I tell them you are NOT dressing like a hoochie momma ...you ARE perceived the way you dress!