OK, WRAL is running a report on Gov Purdue's proposal to tax golf greens fees etc. As a golfer, I support it. The argument I've seen against it, from the WRAL report is that the 7% tax will harm the average Joe Sixpack golfer. Let's do the math. If you pay 50 bucks per round, I'd say you have plenty of discretionary income, so the additional fees don;t sound so oppressive. Yep a whopping Three dollars, fifty cents, far less than the two beers Joe Sixpack pays the bikini clad beer cart gal. We do need to examine the tax code and update it. I could see a much smaller sales tax or income tax, if taxes were better spread out. It's not about creating a larger pie slice, at the expense of another's slice. It's about making a larger pie, so we pay a "fairer" tax.
Big Baloney. It's about stealing more money! When do they ever spend less in Raleigh? All they do is steal more and more money.
No suprise to see the OP supporting taxes since its our 'patriotic duty' but I am a golfer, and everyone who plays will be impacted. I don't pay $50 a round much but when I do I don't feel like looking down at $3.50 extra to fund all these bologna projects the Dems continue to roll out. This is exactly the same line of thinking where if you have enough money that YOU WORK for you should share more of it by working harder to make the same amount that you did before you got taxed. Yes its a small example on an individual round basis but I dont think one should have to pay more for the same thing when that money does not go back to the business you are supporting. By the way, there are not too many bikini clad cart girls out there, but if there were, they would appreciate that $3.50 to continue to be spent on their drinks and tips moreso than on a BS tax.
The tax being proposed is not just on a round a of golf, it is on everything golf related, such as tees, balls, shoes, clubs, bags, hats, shirts, anything that is catergorized as golf or golf equipment, to include but not limited to the food sold in said club house, and don't forget that trip to the driving range or the trip to Adventure Landing to play putt-putt with the grandkids. As to the bikini clad beer cart girl, I'd gladly spend more money at the course if they actually had them, most of the "cart girls" I've seen are usually wives of members or employees out there looking to make an extra dollar or two while the hubby is playing golf or working on the course, and could honestly care less if you bought a beer from them or not. And while the proposed tax if passed wouldn't cause me to stop playing nor how often I play, it would somewhat change where and when I play.
Am I missing something or would balls, tees, and apparel already be charged a sales tax? I think the new tax only applies to greens fees. I have also heard that massages are being considered.
So if I go to a sporting goods store and buy a golf shirt for my husband I'll be charged an extra "golf" tax. That is excessive if it's true! :banghead:
I just feel that me and Joe Sixpack are already taxed enough. It shouldn't be about increasing tax revenue, it should be about lowering government expenses. I don't know where or why I heard this, but to boil a frog you don't throw him in boiling water, but you put him in cold water and slowly bring the water to a boil.(I've never boiled a frog, so I could be misquoting) In relation to taxes, I feel like a frog and the water is getting hotter(slowly but surely) Haven't empires been destroyed by overtaxing their citizens?
The way I have read the proposal is that it is a 7.5% sales tax on "recreational activies". As counties in NC carry different sales tax rates, the rates on individual items will be adjusted up as needed to the 7.5%, while items that do not fall into that category will remain at what ever the county sales tax rate is. And while golfers are the ones being the loudest about it, it affects others as well such as bowlers, or any other "recreational activity" participant and the reason I see the golfers being the loudest is that for the most part golfers are the only ones that purchase "golf equipment" for recreational use on a regular basis in the form of balls, tees, hats, shirts, spikes for your shoes, gloves, etc. Which brings to light the question of local race tracks and the racers there. Would that be considered a recreational activity or would it only apply to places like Adventure Landing and Rush Hour carting? Craig
Raising taxes on "behavioral" type things, basing a budget on those expected revenues and then waiting for the money to come in never works. People will change their behavior and that money will not come. Im waiting for the Youth Sports tax to start. Then we can all sit home and twiddle our thumbs because no one will be able to afford to do anything.
What do they consider a golf shirt? They look like polos to me. Does it encompass all "golf style" shirts or do I have to buy one that has some golf company's name embroidered on it for it to count? What if I buy the shirt at Target and not a sporting goods store? Would that make it exempt? I have to wear polo (golf?) style shirts for work, will I get a tax break (I know I'm dreaming) because I'm not wearing it for "recreational" purposes? This is much like the ridiculous "use tax" that this state has. Start paying for everything in cash, it makes it harder for them to trace what you buy so they can tax you on it later.
The proposal is not to put additional taxes on clothing or any other goods that are already subject to sales tax. It is to apply sales tax to some things that are not tangible objects.
That's what I thought, but for some reason I thought they didn't tax clothes. I think I left my brain somewhere else today. :shock: ANYWAYS.... If they do want to tax recreational use clothing, they should structure it like they do in several other states. For example, in PA, there's no tax on clothes considered a "necessity" but there is a tax on what is consider "luxury" such as fur coats, swimming trunks and other specialty clothes.
Right, sales tax is a state issue, and many different states take many different approaches. When I moved to NC in 1984, they even levied sales tax on food and prescription medicines. Fortunately, the state has exempted those, although counties do still tax food (that's the 2% on your cash register receipt).
BS...to be taxing Golf... Complete BS.... I won't be spending 50 on green fees either... to many courses and to many deals to spend that much, and at primo courses...
