Got a new NCDL? Read this!

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by Jester, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

  2. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Hmmmmm That actually upset me.:evil:
     
  3. Kent

    Kent Well-Known Member

    I called my dear sweet mother up a few minutes ago and asked her to check her driver's license that she just got renewed a few days ago.

    Sure enough, the new N. American hologram is on hers, too.
     
  4. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    Is it automatic on the license? Can you request not to have it on there? Just asking since DH has to have his renewed this month and i don't think he will be very happy with a political statement on his own license.
     
  5. tawiii

    tawiii Guest

    I'm missing something. What exactly is wrong with this?
     
  6. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    Chill folks...I got my drivers license in May. Yes...it has a similar insignia.

    BUT...

    1. The continents of the world have a very specific shape. They don't change depending on who is creating a logo. If you are creating something that shows a continent...it's pretty much going to look the same as any other something that shows that same continent. And as far as I know, no one has yet trademarked the silhouette of the continents that make up our fine planet. And I dare them to try.

    2. The image used on the NC driver's license is a much broader view of the this side of the world. If you look at the NC DL logo on the article (which does match what I'm looking at on my license)...you notice that the NC logo includes Austrialia and Brazil as well as parts of Africa and Europe. If Australia and Brazil, Africa and Europe are part of the alleged North American Union...then it's news to me. The North American Union logo does not include these other countries...probably because that would negate their purpose.

    To create such a fuss as this guy is doing, is to insinuate that the Lion's Club used the MGM logo because both were Lions.
     
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  7. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    The shape of the continents that make up the planet earth are not political unless someone chooses to see them as political.

    Then again, cottage cheese can be political. It's white, lumpy and some like it and some don't. That sounds like some politicians I know.:mrgreen:
     
  8. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    I don't think its optional and from what I've read, apparently the reason they want you to have a solemn face when taking your picture is for optical scanning purposes. Your photo becomes part of the system and identifies your face to your name/information and placed into a huge database.

    As for the point to this...there exists a growing agenda by some in lofty positions pushing to establish a North American Union, similiar to the European Union. This would lessen the importance of the United States as a country and unify Mexico, Canada and the United States. There have been said a plan to build a superhighway that would link Canada to Mexico running through the U.S. The United States of America could be disappearing and a new NAU emerging.
     
  9. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    And who might these people in "lofty positions" be?
     
  10. Animal lover

    Animal lover Well-Known Member

  11. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    For those who are interested, here are the objectives of the Security and Prosperity Partnership that the conspiracy theorist in the WND article is so upset about not wanting his driver's license associated with:

    http://www.spp.gov/pdf/spp_ip_strat_fact_sheet.pdf

    The objective of the Security and Prosperity Partnership Intellectual Property (IP) Action Strategy is to develop a coordinated strategy aimed at combating counterfeiting and piracy by focusing on enhancing detection and deterrence, expanding public awareness and outreach efforts, and measuring the scope and magnitude of counterfeiting and piracy in North America.

    In addition to a governmental trilateral component, the Action Strategy also identifies important areas of cooperation between the public and private sector, highlighting specific actions the industry will take to assist in combating counterfeiting and piracy. Such industry actions include, but are not limited to assisting in providing detection training for enforcement officials as well as collaborating in developing: best practices to fight digital piracy, a code of ethics for online transactions, and an IP informational resource database.

    The Intellectual Property Action Strategy identifies three key areas of cooperative effort to improve IP protection and enforcement: Detect and Deter Trade in Pirated and Counterfeit Goods, Public Awareness and Outreach to Our Business Communities, and Measuring Piracy and Counterfeiting. Listed below are specific proposals aimed at achieving the Action Strategy’s objectives.

    Detect and Deter Trade in Pirated and Counterfeit Goods
    • Develop best practices for enforcement
    • Develop a network of enforcement professionals
    • Cooperation to enhance IPR enforcement in third countries
    • Enhanced border enforcement and detection
    o Exchange customs techniques for IPR detection and risk management
    o Exchange best practices for training of customs officers
    o Exchange information regarding suspect shipments

    Public Awareness and Outreach to Our Business Communities
    • Develop public-private initiative to tackle piracy and counterfeiting
    o Enhance domestic industry/government cooperation and information-sharing
    o Build on international business coalitions
    o Conduct public awareness campaigns
    o Develop and maintain a global enforcement actions website
    Measuring Piracy and Counterfeiting

    • Develop relevant information to understand scope and nature of the piracy and counterfeiting problem
    • Assess and, as appropriate, implement the data collection recommendations of the OECD study on the economic impact of counterfeiting and piracy



    Personally, I think the guys a nut case looking for something to b***h about.
     
  12. Quincy8Boy

    Quincy8Boy Well-Known Member

    I've been trying to find the book:

    "The Late Great U.S.A.: The Coming Merger With Mexico and Canada"

    He talks about all these issues.
     
  13. Animal lover

    Animal lover Well-Known Member

    It's on Amazon.

    I don't have an opinion on this merger as yet, since it is so new to me. Have not yet read this book either. But I do remember the turmoil the European countries went through trying to form the EU. (Currency was a BIG issue.) Has turned out well for them, though. I would suspect that if the NAU comes about, the US, being the strongest country, would cram our way down everyone's throat. The Mexicans probably wouldn't care, but I don't see the Canadians going down without a fight.
     
  14. Clif

    Clif Guest

    I've been getting license photos for years and not once did I ever have the photographer tell me not to smile (or look solemn).
     
  15. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    I got mine renewed a year or so ago, and was specifically told not to smile. :rolleyes: It looks like a mug shot. That and the over blond hair makes store clerks look at me twice, LOL!
     
  16. Jester

    Jester Well-Known Member

    I don't know. I've heard several other people say they'll tell you not to smile. Of course, that may or may not be a significant issue.

    Sure, the conspiracy theorists love to read in what they will, but it would make sense and they most certainly have the capacity to (a) keep an extremely large database of licensed drivers and, (b) have face recognition software. There in lies the ability to single you out in a crowd of people and to quickly establish your identity without you even having to say a word.

    Receiving a drivers license is a granted privilege and you either follow the rules or you do not receive one. Getting one now is relatively easy, but we are all at the mercy of legislation if and when the day comes that we must give up more and more privacy to obtain it.
     
  17. GarnerGirl2000

    GarnerGirl2000 Well-Known Member

    I havent ever been told that either and I just got my new one not too long ago! However my dad and my friend both said that were they went, they were told not to smile. strange.
     
  18. Clif

    Clif Guest

    I think someone was messing with you. I was with my son getting his NCDL and was beside the camera making faces to get him to smile (hey, it's what I do).
     
  19. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    I must not be the only one then, they told DH the same thing. It's sounding to me like it depends on who is taking the picture.
     
  20. KDsGrandma

    KDsGrandma Well-Known Member

    I got mine renewed in January, and they told me not to smile. They also made me take off my glasses. I do not have the hologram on the back, though.
     

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