Republicans Most Likely to Reject Evolution

Probably nothing shocking here but I found it interesting.







This one shows that I definitely don't fit the stereotype! 8)



http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27847

 

Am I suffering brain freeze, or are the color codes reversed?

 

I think it is brain freeze. Here is the face I make when that happens! :x

 

You're right, brain freeze. :x
I think I need a glass of wine about now.

 

Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein

 

belief by fear.... isn't that the entire strategy of organized religion?

 

Wow! I just started reading John MacArthur's book, The Battle for the Beginning. I'm only in the introduction (which is about a chapter long) but already I thought of you, Hugh. Maybe you should read it, you can borrow my copy when I'm done if you want to. Here's a sneak peek into it from Amazon. Click on "Excerpt" and "Surprise Me!" to read parts of it, also the Front Flap and Back Flap pages as well.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0849916259/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-7854722-6533519#reader-link

 

There is absolutely no reason someone who is a Christian should reject evolution. The Bible is not a science book.

"The Language of God" by Frances S Collins is an excellent book for those who think they have to reject evolution to be good Christians and who think accepting it is tantamount to professing atheism. Both the Methodist Church and the Catholic Church accept that evolution is a valid scientific explanation for how life has changed on our planet.

More than 10,000 Christian clergy men and women have signed a letter supporting evolution as a valid SCIENTIFIC (not religious) principle.
http://www.butler.edu/clergyproject/religion_science_collaboration.htm

If God can create natural processes for physics and chemistry, then why shouldn't he have created natural processes for biology, too? It is only ignorance that makes people think that there are any doubts about the natural processes that take place in biological evolution. On that level, our country is as ignorant as Islamic fundamentalist Turkey, where only religion can be taught instead of science.

It is amazing so many in our country accept gravity, the sun-centered solar system and the existance of other planets and galaxies. I really believe the reason our country is being surpassed in scientific fields is that so many children learn to doubt and disbelieve science at a young age because they think it contradicts their religion. I don't get it....science can only explain the physical world, how can it EVER contradict God?

"It vexes me when they would constrain science by the authority of the Scriptures, and yet do not consider themselves bound to answer reason and experiment."

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. "

Galileo Galilei

 

Excuse me Uber, but wouldn't belief in evolution and creationism be standing on both sides of the fence? :? Sorry, but I'm not a fence straddler. :lol:

 

The only ones who insist that Christians believe the literal translation of the Bible are non-believers.

 

Nevermind

 

No, I don't think it is straddling the fence at all, Ready.

God works on His own timetable and in His own ways. Why can't he have started the whole thing with the Big Bang and said hello as his people speak to him? He knew how it would turn out, he is omnicient. What is a day to God? He is the ruler of the entire universe, not just this meager planet...why should his day be 24 hours like it is on little old Earth? It could be billions of years! If my home was the enitre universe, then I might count a day as the time light would take to go across it, or around it, since we measure a day in the time it takes us to rotate once. Since we don't know the length of God's day, or the way he numbers years, it is silly and presumptious of us to assume we can know the age of the universe based on an interpretation of his word. Especially when the senses and evidence he gave us indicate that it really WASN'T 7 24-hour days. A human decided it was 6,000 years - it doesn't say how old the earth is ANYWHERE in the Bible.

You should read Collins' book. He is smarter than I am and can explain it better. He is the Director of the Human Genome project. Smart guy...knows science stuff pretty well....and argues for Belief in God.

 

I was directing this to Hugh but now I'll direct it to you too, Uber. Start with the front and back flaps though.

Tell you what, after I finish this book, I'll be happy to read the one you told me about.

 

So by standing firm on my beliefs, I'm a "finger in the ear sticker"? Wow, that really hurt. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Whatever... sticks and stones. :roll:

 

double amen and add the episcopalians too to the list who understand one does not exclude the other

 

I said on another thread that faith and science are two different things, like math and history, and one cannot be used to prove or disprove the other. After I posted, it occurred to me that a better analogy would have been love and math, or hope and geography.

I believe God created the universe and everything in it, and I believe the big bang is how he did it. I believe evolution was part of God's plan. I love the way Ubergeek described what "a day" might be to God. I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, but I do not believe "inspired" means "dictated word for word," nor do I think everything in it is literally true. I think the Bible uses literary devices such as allegory to make points. The Bible is a moral compass, not a science book.

 

Ready, I will give it a read this weekend. This is one of the web pages that will not come up on my phone.

Thanks
Hugh

 

You a quite welcome

Hugh

 

Ponder this statement:

Everything in the Bible is truly stated, but not everything in the Bible is a statement of truth.

 

I read the book flaps and the First Chapter and understand why Amazon is trying to unload this book for under $2. This gentleman is a literalist that believes everything happened word for word the way the bible called it out (got that from the front flap).

Regarding evolution he said in the first chapter:

Based on this statement I am to believe that since 1930, when the theory gained wide acceptance, that society degraded? I have heard this silliness from other religious leaders (Jerry Falwell, Osama Bin Laden, and Pat Robertson) and I don't buy it.