September 11th -- 5 Years

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by neighborLEE, Sep 7, 2006.

  1. neighborLEE

    neighborLEE Well-Known Member

    Just a place for Your thoughts on the 9/11 Anniversary.

    Mine: I'm CoNfUsEd to be agreeing with the Mayor of New Orleans but it is pathetic that YankeeLand, NY-NY can't get a building built in 5 Years in the place of the destroyed World Trade Center. The Empire State Building was built in less than one year. I don't even know if they have finalized a replacement building design. The people in charge up there must be completely useless. ...neighborLEE
     
  2. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    The problem is that the people of New York want to rebuild AT LEAST as tall as before. The politicians, on the other hand, want to force a pathetic piece of crap down their throats, thereby giving the terrorists a victory by leaving lower Manhattan destroyed. Therefore, the only thing to do is to stall and delay until the right people are in office.

    If you wish to help, go here and sign the petition:

    http://www.teamtwintowers.org/
     
  3. Steve

    Steve Guest

    everythings about a victory... either the terrorists win the victory or we win the victory.

    knock knock... there are no winners here... only losers....
     
  4. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

  5. Steve

    Steve Guest

    everything about 9/11 and what has followed it has been nothing but a waste.....so what's the news?
     
  6. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    There was a lot of time lost in having to deal with the wretched approval and FINALLY the rejection of the original plan.

    The feature of the original plan was a "lets-understand-the-terrorist's-view-so-we-can-all-understand-that-they-had-a-right-to-hate-us-and-do-this" center. Needless to say, most Americans were outraged...but the fight took a while to win.
     
  7. mordorboy

    mordorboy Well-Known Member

    I've never seen the original plan. Can you provide a link or some details for us to review?
     
  8. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    http://www.ifcwtc.org/
     
  9. markfnc

    markfnc Well-Known Member

    The Empire State Bulduing was built in 14 months using 3 crews working 24 hours a day. It was also built at the beginning of the depression, and workers were very avaiable. The World Trade Centers were built in about 2 1/3 years. Now this is constructino time, you have design, and permiting in front of that. I know even a smaller building being built in Garner can have 1 to 1 1/2 years of upfront time before the 8-9 month construction schedule.

    Now, you are correct, they should have started that process.
     
  10. Steve

    Steve Guest

    I certainly agree they should get on with it no matter what they're going to build.
     
  11. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    Better to keep the hole in the ground until the right thing can be built. Save having to demolish the wrong thing to make way.
     
  12. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    "lets-understand-the-terrorist's-view-so-we-can-all-understand-that-they-had-a-right-to-hate-us-and-do-this"

    Isn't that what the empty hole in the skyline has become?
     
  13. doitwithyourbootson07

    doitwithyourbootson07 Well-Known Member

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    This is a crazy pic.
     
  14. kdc1970

    kdc1970 Guest

    And proved to be a hoax.
     
  15. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I seriously doubt the photographer, or the camera for that matter, would have survived.
     
  16. mordorboy

    mordorboy Well-Known Member

    Maggie wrote

    Okay, I missed that part of the center. I guess Sean told you that was in the plan.

    But in a separate thought.....what is wrong with trying to understand the terrorists' POV? The second part of your quote is not required because you do the first part.
     
  17. kaci

    kaci Well-Known Member

    To change the tone of this thread - i just listened to the song "God Bless the USA" and just like i did in the weeks after 9/11 i cranked it up and shed some tears.
     
  18. peppercorns

    peppercorns Well-Known Member

    I'm with you Kaci.
    The flag are - and should be at half mast today.

    and by the Way LEE - take you Yankeeland comment and put it where the sun don't shine because after 9/11 we all thought of ourselves as AMERICANS - there was no petty divisional Mason-Dixon Line, there was no color of skin or country of origin.WE were and ARE all Americans.
     
  19. magnolia

    magnolia Well-Known Member

    No babe, it wasn't Sean:

    "Debra Burlingame, whose brother Charles ``Chic'' Burlingame was a pilot of American Airlines Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon, wrote in the June 7 issue of the Wall Street Journal that the International Freedom Center would be dominated by ``ideologues hoping to use the memorial site as nothing more than a powerful visual aid to promote their agenda.''

    Burlingame wrote that the freedom center's Bernstein is president of Human Rights First, a group that sued U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld over alleged abuses of detainees from Iraq and Afghanistan."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=apT9kZucGrwo&refer=us

    "The organizers of the International Freedom Center say that in order to understand 9/11, we must see exhibits about slavery, segregation and genocide and its impact around the world. This is a history that we all should know and learn, but not here -- not on sacred ground," said Michael Burke, whose brother, Billy, was one of the 343 firefighters killed responding to the attacks.

    "Nobody is coming to this place to learn about Ukraine democracy or to be inspired by the courage of Tibetan monks. They're coming for September 11."

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/06/21/ground.zero.plans/



    I, and most Americans, don't give a flying-flip what the terrorists point of view is or was. It doesn't matter. No point of view is one that justifies killing thousands of innocent civilans with no warning, no means to escape, as this terrorist plan deliberately did. These inhuman monsters deliberately targeted innocent civilans. They deliberately planned this so that they would have no time or means to escape...do you not get that? Can your bleeding-heart moonbat brain even begin to wrap itself around that?

    That you would even consider that the point of view of the maniacal, sick-minded terrorists that did this even MATTERS, makes we sick to my stomach.

    Let me guess...you think we should establish dialogue with them, eh? You think we should invite them over for tea so we can find out what is on their mind? You want to chat with them boy? No need...anyone who pays attention KNOWS what their point of view is.

    Their point of view is this: You don't share our religion?...then you deserve to die. You don't believe what we believe?...then you deserve to die. You will join us or you will die. Period.

    So tell us, murderboy....what would you say to that?
     
  20. Oy Yayoy

    Oy Yayoy Well-Known Member

    Want to see their agenda at work? Go out on the web and try to find one of the once-famous photographs taken at the 1988 Governors Island Summit between Reagan and Gorbachev with them, and Bush #41, standing at the railing with the Manhattan Financial District skyline, including the towers, as a backdrop.

    They've been censored out of existence.

    Governors Island is 1/2 mile off the southern tip of Manhattan. The Coast Guard gave up their base there in 1996, and it was taken over by the city.
     

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