Something that scares me

Discussion in 'Discussion Group' started by zookeeper, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    There's something I've noticed more than a couple of times recently and this morning again, I witnessed it and decided to ask if any of you have seen this and what the heck people are thinking -

    You've all seen inmates cleaning up the highways, namely I40, correct? Can someone explain to me what the "guards" are thinking when they are in pairs, carrying rifles and you see one of them with about 3 inmates picking up in front of him, behind him are a bunch more and pulling up the rear is the last guard strolling along looking at his feet, or something else? I understand that these prisoners are likely deemed low risk, or whatever, BUT for goodness sake, it doesn't seem like these men with guns are paying too much attention to their own safety, nor for that of the public.

    The workers near the guy pulling up the rear today could have easily turned and overtaken him and the ones surrounding the other guy could have disarmed him without much trouble if they had anything planned.

    Anybody else bothered by this?
     
  2. doitwithyourbootson07

    doitwithyourbootson07 Well-Known Member

    That does seem a little risky.....
     
  3. Clif

    Clif Guest

    You're not seeing the third guard well away from the group.
     
  4. zookeeper

    zookeeper Well-Known Member

    They were in the median, if there was a third guard, he was on or behind the bus across the highway.
     
  5. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    There are always three armed guards. Two with the inmates one of to the side with a great view to a kill. They are armed with three shotguns, three .357 magnums, and three Mini 14's.
     
  6. grysunshine

    grysunshine Well-Known Member

    wow, I never knew there was one always separate...you learn something new everyday!
     
  7. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Watch the tree line next time. If anyone is to run. They are authorized to shoot to kill.
     
  8. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    are you a wolf or sheepdog?
     
  9. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Neither. That was my job while in college. Worked 2nd shift.
     
  10. KellBell

    KellBell Well-Known Member

    plus these guys working on the side of the road, are not the 'hardcore' criminal's, and usually not a big risk......as a general rule
     
  11. Pirate96

    Pirate96 Guest

    guess you are missing out.......was wondering if you would know what I was talking about......guess not
     
  12. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    I don't think I am missing out.:mrgreen:
     
  13. grysunshine

    grysunshine Well-Known Member

    whether it is two or three guards to 10 inmates (or however many), the chance of a bullet hitting you should be scary enough to just focus on cleaning the road. :shock: :!:
     
  14. Flint Benson

    Flint Benson Member


    There used to be three correctional officers, but no longer. Generally there are only two officers assigned to a medium custody road squad now, because of budget cutbacks over the last few years. By DOC policy, they have a Lead Correctional Officer and a Correctional Officer assigned to each squad, each with a revolver & shotgun. A third officer can be assigned, but it is rare in 2007.



    On medium custody road squads you do have "hardcore" criminals. By DOC policy if the inmate has a serious assaultive crime, then they must be within 12 months of minimum custody eligibility. All inmates on a medium custody road squad must be with 36 months of miniumum custody eligibility.
     
  15. reeteach2

    reeteach2 Well-Known Member

    I always wondered if any of the inmates were actually ever shot. Are the guards actually authorized to shoot to kill if someone tries to escape, or are they just supposed to maim, or are they only allowed to shoot if an inmate attacks them? I'm also a little scared they will shoot, miss and hit me as i'm going by (or worse, one of my kids).
     
  16. Flint Benson

    Flint Benson Member

    Yes, they are authorized to use deadly force to stop an escaping felon, to protect the public, or to protect themselves. Yes, I have known inmate to be shot when they attempted to leave a road squad. It doesn't happen often, but it has happened.
     
  17. reeteach2

    reeteach2 Well-Known Member

    Did it happen recently? Was it around here?
     
  18. Flint Benson

    Flint Benson Member


    The most local shooting I can think of from a road squad involved the prison unit in Franklin County. That was back in the 80s.
     
  19. ServerSnapper

    ServerSnapper Well-Known Member

    Bunn Prison did not have road crews until 94-95.
     
  20. Flint Benson

    Flint Benson Member

    When I started in '81, they had road crews at Bunn. They were a small field unit, but they were still medium custody and they had a medium custody road crew. One of the officers assigned to the road crew had worked with us at Triangle Corr Center before he transferred to Bunn and was one of the officers assigned to the crew when two inmates escaped. One was captured within an hour, the other was shot and killed later that night. (He wasn't shot running from the road crew, but escaped from it and was shot in the woods later that night).
     

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