Taxes explained so we can understand

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  1. CraigSPL

    CraigSPL Well-Known Member

    Found this and loved it so I thought I'd share.


    Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics

    Best explanation to share with your congressman, who clearly does not understand this complex principle.


    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all
    ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
    would go something like this:

    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay $1.
    The sixth would pay $3.
    The seventh would pay $7.
    The eighth would pay $12.
    The ninth would pay $18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

    So, that's what they decided to do.

    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
    arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve.

    'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce
    the cost of your daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just
    $80.

    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so
    the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But
    what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide
    the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'

    They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
    that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would
    each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested
    that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same
    amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

    And so:

    The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
    The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).
    The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).
    The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
    The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
    The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
    continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
    began to compare their savings.

    'I only got a dollar out of the $20 declared the sixth man. He pointed
    to the tenth man, 'but he got $10!'

    'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar,
    too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'

    'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $ 10 back
    when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

    'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
    anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
    tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers
    without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered
    something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them
    for even half of the bill!

    And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is
    how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
    most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
    being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
    might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

    For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
    For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.


    David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
    Professor of Economics
    Universityof Georgia




    Craig
     
  2. barney726

    barney726 Well-Known Member

    Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read
    "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

    Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I
    laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the
    coincidence.

    When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him
    that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He
    stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to
    redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless
    guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

    I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the
    server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless
    guy was grateful.

    At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I
    realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn,
    but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away t he money he did earn
    even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

    I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in
    concept than in practical application.
     

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