What Europe thinks of the U.S. and our mess

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  1. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    The election -- a very interesting article by Bob Maginnis. Mr. Maginnis is a retired Army lieutenant colonel, a national security and foreign affairs analyst for radio and television and a senior strategist with the U.S. Army.

    To listen to an 11 minute conversation between Jimmy DeYoung and Bob Maginnis on 9/27, click here http://prophecytoday.com/html/interviews.php



    The economic crisis --

     
  2. CraigSPL

    CraigSPL Well-Known Member

    Ok.....so Europe wants the Federal Government to bail out the companies that made bad investments and in the process Foreign companies who had put monies into these companies kept their trap shut as long as they were making money, but now that the tide has turned they want a bailout so they will hopefully break even.


    Give me a freaking break.




    Craig
     
  3. Wayne Stollings

    Wayne Stollings Well-Known Member

    It is more a concern the impact on the credit markets is not limited to just the US and as we slide toward a major crisis we drag the economies of the rest of the world toward the same hole just as we did in the 1930s. The problem is not whether companies "break even" but that the US credit markets and to a lesser extent the world credit markets are shutting down. The effects of no credit will sonn be felt at every level of the economy and the road back will be even longer and more difficult with each passing day.
     
  4. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Is a new global financial system coming?

     
  5. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    It has been said that there are three types of people:

    1. Those who make things happen.
    2. Those who watch things happen.
    3. Those who wonder what happened.

    The vast majority of mankind find themselves in the last two categories. Most have "eyes to see" but don't "see" what is happening. Most have "ears that hear" but don't
    "understand" what IS happening.

    President Andrew Jackson, the only one of our presidents whose administration totally abolished the National Debt, condemned the international bankers as a "den of vipers" which he was determined to "rout out" of the fabric of American life. Jackson claimed that if only the American people understood how these vipers operated on the American scene "there would a revolution before morning."

    Congressman Louis T. McFadden who, for more than ten years, served as chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee, stated that the international bankers are a "dark crew of financial pirates who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket... They prey upon the people of these United States."

    John F. Hylan, then mayor of New York, said in 1911 that "the real menace of our republic is the invisible government which, like a giant octopus, sprawls its slimy length over our city, state and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses, generally referred to as 'international bankers.'"
     
  6. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Russia weighs in

    and Jimmy DeYoung puts it into a Biblical perspective.
     
  7. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Are we an arrogant nation? :neutral:

    Pride goes before destruction,
    And a haughty spirit before a fall.
    Proverbs 16:18 - NKJV

    Lord, have mercy on us.
     
  8. LETSGOEERS!!!

    LETSGOEERS!!! Well-Known Member

    I was forwarded this in an email. This is sorta the same thing, but from Pat Robertson. Not much of a Pat fan, but alot of it makes sense.

    Russia’s vicious dismemberment of the tiny nation of Georgia is the beginning of an unfolding sequence of Russian aggression. At present, pipelines from Siberia that run through Russia supply the majority of natural gas and oil used by Western Europe and Ukraine. A pipeline from the Caspian Sea has been bringing one million barrels a day of non-Russian oil through Georgia to Turkey and the Mediterranean Sea. Russia wants to control all of those vital pipelines.

    Tbilisi, the capital of Georgia, is only 578 miles from Baghdad, the capital of Iraq. Russia has helped neighboring Iran build its two aggressive nuclear facilities. Georgia and Iraq are now sandwiched between the dictatorships of Russia and Iran. The Russian leader, Vladimir Putin, seems to want to dominate Caspian oil and Persian Gulf oil to add to Russia’s own enormous supplies of oil and gas. If he succeeds, Russia will gain a stronghold over the economies
    of most of the world and can then act to bring America to its knees.

    Against that backdrop, consider what is happening in Iran. That nation is under the domination of a fanatical group of Shiite Muslim clerics. The president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is a fervent believer in the Mahdi, a mythical messiah figure who, according to his belief, will come to make the entire world Muslim, but only after a period of worldwide chaos and destruction during which all the Jews will be killed.

    Iran, despite warnings from the United Nations, is on an accelerated course to build nuclear facilities and an atomic bomb. The Iranians recently test fired an improved intermediate-range ballistic missile, the Shahab-3, that is capable of carrying nuclear warheads to hit Israel, Iraq, and most of Europe.

    Ahmadinejad has repeatedly expressed a desire to use nuclear weapons to annihilate the nation of Israel. He has declared that the threat of nuclear retaliation from Israel against Iran does not concern him because tens of millions of Iranian deaths will merely hasten the coming of the Mahdi.

    In the 1930s, a similar fanatic named Adolf Hitler made clear his diabolic plan. Early on, the Allied Powers, France and Great Britain, could have stopped Hitler but they scoffed at his pretensions. In 1945, only after World War II and 50 million tragic deaths, did the free world recognize the cost of its indifference to the clear warnings from Hitler’s own speeches and published writings.

    In 2008, the nation of Israel does not have the luxury of ignoring the ravings of a fanatic who soon will possess nuclear bombs with a will to use them. The Western powers want to talk and negotiate with Russia and Iran, but talk is futile. If Russia moves again to crush a neighbor or enter
    the Middle East, and if Iran develops an atomic bomb, time for talk will be over.

    The Western powers have left Israel no choice but to strike Iranian nuclear facilities now. However, it seems to me, after consultation with Chris Mitchell (our CBN News Jerusalem Bureau Chief), that Israel will not want to commence actions against Iran until after the United States elections have taken place. In my opinion, Israel will be forced to make a preemptive strike against the Iranian nuclear reactors by air or submarine-launched cruise missiles during the brief period between the U.S. elections and the inauguration of a new U.S. president.

    But here is the downside for Israel. In Lebanon, on Israel’s northern border, the radical group known as Hezbollah has, along with Iranian help, completely rearmed and now possesses as many as 40,000 rockets targeting Israel. To the south of Israel, in Gaza, another Iranian client, hamas, is armed to the teeth and longing for an opportunity to strike Israel. Of course, any Israeli strike against the nuclear facilities of Iran will trigger a counter blow from Iran and possibly Syria. But these are not the only dangers.

    Would Russia then consider hostilities (such as I have outlined) the excuse to enter the fight on trumped-up reasons in order to further its ultimate aim of controlling Middle East oil?

    As the potential conflict spreads, oil terminals would be engulfed in smoke and flames. The Strait of Hormuz would be blocked, and with it 40 percent of the world’s oil. The industries of the world would face severe energy shortages and the economies of both America and the European Union would face a devastating depression.

    What if the United States decided to oppose the Russian expansion? The Russians have enough long-range nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles aimed at the United States to annihilate all of our cities. Would we be willing to play a nuclear game of chicken with Russia to save Israel? Probably not. Would the United States risk war with Russia over Middle East oil? Perhaps, but unlikely. If we act, it will be ugly. If we don’t act, our economy could either be crippled or faced with continually escalating exactions demanded by Russia for oil.

    About 2600 years ago, God gave the Prophet Ezekiel a description of an invasion of Israel after the Jews had been regathered to the Promised Land from all over the world in the “latter days.” Ezekiel wrote of an invasion force led by Russia that would include Iran and “Cush,” which is Sudan. The other parties described by Ezekiel that constituted the invading force could include some of the Muslim nations in the former Soviet Caucasus region and possibly Turkey. According to Ezekiel 38:12, they would come seeking “plunder and loot.” What greater plunder than the oil riches of the Persian Gulf?

    Will this unfold all at once? It’s difficult to say. But what is clear is this: The Israeli strike against Iran will be the trigger. From then on, dramatic events will follow in quick succession. It all will conclude when God has rained fire on the islands of the sea and on the invading force coming against Israel.

    Where will the United States be in all of this conflict? According to Ezekiel, the “young lions of Tarshish” will be questioning the Russians about their aggression - questioning, but not acting to stop it. Who are these “young lions of Tarshish?” Tarshish was the region beyond Cadiz in Spain. In antiquity, explorers from Tarshish came to Ireland, then across the ocean to North America, traveling the Mississippi River as far as the present-day site of Davenport, Iowa.

    I believe the term “young lions of Tarshish” refers to England and the United States of America. According to Ezekiel, when the Middle East trouble begins, the young lions of Tarshish will warn Russia and Iran, but refuse to act. We will suffer grave economic damage, but will not engage in military action to stop the conflict. However, we may not be spared nuclear strikes against coastal cities.

    In conclusion, it is my opinion that we have between 75 and 120 days before the Middle East starts spinning out of control. If there was ever a time for fervent prayer, it is now. Prayer can change the course of history! The Bible says, “Seek righteousness, seek humility. * that you may be hid in the day of the Lord’s wrath.” “* the fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.”


    Hopefully, our Lord will intervene and head off the disaster that seems to be approaching. Let us pray together. With God all things are possible!

    God bless you.
    Pat Robertson
     
  9. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Bible prophecy allows both the diligent and the skeptical to test God's word. The Bible is God's Word and He proves it by including many prophecies which would (and will)happen in the future. Bible prophecy is also God's way of warning those on Earth of the great danger which now lies ahead. The Bible warns a single generation will see the fulfillment of many extraordinary prophecies, beginning with Israel gathered back into her Land as a nation ... and ending with the final battle of Armageddon (which the Bible warns will be the irreversible result of a coming 'peace plan' which will one day be imposed and enforced upon nation Israel.) We believe the generation the Bible warns about is alive today. We expect you to challenge this statement. To do so, simply learn what the Bible says, study the news, pray for wisdom, and then decide. Many prophecies and warnings are given so we will return to God and draw close to Him before it's too late ... for God will provide hope, comfort, and shelter for all who will sincerely receive it, through the one He sent forth - Jesus (Yeshua), the promised Messiah - called 'Savior' because He willingly and lovingly laid down His life for us as our sacrifice (once and for all) to save us from our sins and from the darkness, loneliness, and torments of Hell. Learn of Him. Please don't wait. The message found in the Bible is not trivial ... it is staggering!!!

    First, A Short Bible Prophecy 'Equation'
    To Help Show How Close We Are ...

    + Israel back in her Land again as a nation
    + Iran and allies threatening war against Israel
    + China and allies armed with weapons capable of quickly destroying 1/3 of mankind
    + 'Weak mixed with strong' nations of the Roman Empire reuniting and rising in power (Europe)
    + Teachings of 'false Prophets' deceiving and leading many
    + A Generation which is 'marked' by being "morally corrupt" and "filled with violence"
    (The Bible uses the word 'corrupt' - like smelly, rotting meat)
    + 'The falling away'... churches and synagogues no longer teaching or "enduring sound doctrine"
    + Israel and Jerusalem . . . trouble, troubles, and more trouble
    + All nations turning against nation Israel . . .
    = The Generation of the 'Apocalypse'... Armageddon ... and Messiah's Return.

    For the first time in history this prophetic 'equation' is nearly complete . . .
    And all in THIS generation!!!


    Quoted from...http://www.theprophecies.com/propheciespage.html
     
  10. GoWulfpack

    GoWulfpack Guest

    Screw Europe. Most of those losers should thank us they aren't speaking German right now.
     
  11. ready2cmyKing

    ready2cmyKing Well-Known Member

    Catching?

     

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