This is outrageous. This young man has placed himself in the service of our country...and he was told by the principal that he couldn't wear his dress blues? I understand dress codes, and I understand the reason for them. It's to protect the respectfulness, ceremony and formality of the graduation ritual. HOWEVER, I can't think of anything more respectable, formal and ceremonial than a serviceman's dress blues. Sounds to me like the principal has an agenda if he can't see the difference between allowing a serviceman to wear his dress blues under his gown, and someone wanting to wear scruffy jeans. It would be easy enough to place a clause in the dress code to make an exception for military uniform. Edit: I find it interesting that when you go to the school's web page, all the principals have an icon so you can email them...all except for Smith. It's easy enough to figure out though.
Sounds like you are rather inconsistant. "You should obey the rules unless I disagree with them, then it is all right"
No Hught.... Military personnel have always been granted special considerations in our country - and rightly so. Those considerations are borne out of appreciation and respect for those that make the sacrifices that non-military citizens don't make. There are rules that say people must pay a certain formulated amount for real estate taxes, but seniors and the disabled get a discount. Do you call that breaking the rules? Each person must pay the same to go to a movie, except children get to pay less even though they take up the same amount of seating...do you call that breaking the rules? There is a vast difference between making exceptions in a requirement when it's the right thing to do, and breaking a rule. There is no reason to make an exception for the kid who wants to wear torn jeans under his gown, because there's no good reason to allow him to and to allow him to would degrade the ceremony. There is a good reason to make an exception for the serviceman who wants to wear his United States Military Uniform under his gown because it allows others to be aware of and acknowledge his sacrifice and the uniform will not degrade the ceremony. Sometimes you guys just slay me with your inability to see the big picture. That you would consider honoring a serviceman's sacrifice with "breaking a rule" is disgraceful.
So you do feel rules are rules except when they conflict with your opinion. Nice trying to work guilt for the Military Service in there, extra points for you.
Those exceptions have not been codified into the rules? No, that exception is part of the rules is it not? If that is the rule they have posted, no, but not all cases provide special discounts for children and when they do it is ... guess what.... written into the rules!!! That is not just your subjective opinion is it? What is the reason for the standardization of clothes for graduation? Why would blue trousers under the gown look different from the khaki of the rest of the class? Like granting exceptions with which you agree and not granting them for those with which you disagree? Yes, they hate rules in the military don't they ....
if you can't break the rules for all, why break them for one? i would think that he would be disclipined enough to follow the rules and show respect for the others that were graduating.
Maybe this needs to be in 4 foot tall letters for those who can't seem to read it in regular fonts: It's not about breaking rules. It's about a show of respect and appreciation for those who are serving in the military. :roll: :roll: :roll:
It's really about attention. He wanted to look different than everybody else up on the stage, and he thought that he could say "Hey. i'm military now, gimme." When it didn't work, surprise surprise he ran to a news outlet. If this had been a story about a gay kid wanting to wear a rainbow pin on his cap, you'd be saying the same thing. I have great respect for the military, this has nothing to do with the military. Its an immature little 17 year old trying to show off and whining when it doesn't work out for him.
No, its actually about one kid that does not want to show respect for his Senior class. And I'm getting sick and tired of people using the "uniform" to get away with following rules that you expect everyone else to follow. We respect the military but they should respect others as well. :roll: :roll: :roll:
It seems like ROTC uniforms have been acceptable in the past. There must have been a problem with others in the past and the principal had to crack down. I doubt that this is limited to just one student wanting to wear their uniform. Just the vocal parent. When I was in high school, people were proud of the uniform. I guess if you wanted to read into it, you could say that the principal was protesting the war in his own way.
Does the UCMJ allow the wearing of a cap and gown with dress blues? Seems like that would be "out of uniform." It's been a long time since I served, but I seem to recall some rules about not wearing uniform and civilian clothes together.
Don't worry about it, Mag. These twits will twist anything into what they want it to say so they get attention. It's called being an attention whore. They do it quite well. It's also their intention to twist words so they can start arguments and try to make themselves look good. As long as we feed these losers, they will continue to thrive like weeds.
There is some variation to that but not for a case such as this and not by the USMC. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/mcub/library/mcur/URCh1.htm#UR1005 1005. CIVILIAN CLOTHING f. No part of a prescribed uniform, except those items which are not exclusively military in character, will be worn with civilian clothing. (1) Items authorized for wear with civilian clothing by men are restricted to the gold cuff links, studs, tie bar, mourning band, footwear, socks, gloves, undergarments, black bow-tie, green wool scarf, general purpose trunks, and crew neck service sweater, the all-weather coat, tanker jacket, dress blue sweater and personally owned extreme cold weather jackets (gortex) without grade insignia, watch caps, and cold weather physical training uniforms. While the USN has some flexibility on the matter. http://buperscd.technology.navy.mil/bup_updt/508/unireg/chapter7/CHAPTER_7.htm 7204. CIVILIAN CEREMONIAL REGALIA WORN WITH NAVAL UNIFORM. Normally, wearing civilian ceremonial regalia when in uniform is improper. Naval personnel may wear academic regalia with the naval uniform on occasions of academic ceremony. This authorization does not apply at U.S. Naval Academy graduation exercises and is limited to carrying of the appropriate academic hood over the left forearm by personnel who have been awarded degrees above the Bachelor of Arts or Science level.
It appears there is a good reason for it and that reason is to prevent the young recruit from breaking the military regulations .....
So wanting to help a young recruit to break the military regulations would make you and Magnolia look good? Maybe you can explain that in greater detail once you have removed your shoe from your mouth ..... again
Please tell me what part of their clothing will show under the gown??? Why not let this young man show his pride in his ability to pass one of the most difficult tasks in the United States, becoming a member of the U.S. Marine Corp? You guys and your hard line rules on a topic such as this want to make me puke!!!! When you guys can accomplish what he did I'll start listening to your babble. Until then, SEMPER FI young man and don't let idiots like your high school principle or the hard liners in here bother you. Your the few, your the proud, your the Marine. And I don't think any Commanding Officer would ever call you to the line on the UCMJ for wearing that uniform under your gown. Protect these people even though they disrespect your honor in serving and your want to show it. PS: There's also a rule at graduation for the spectators to refrain from yelling, cell phones, talking or air horns. But I attended the WJHS graduation and it was a farce. People on their cell phones, air horns, and a general disgrace to decorum. It sounded more like a basketball game than a graduation. Why enforce one rule and not another?
:shock: :? Please do tell, Tangy...what other "rules" are "people" using their military uniforms to get away with breaking and how have they disrespected you?
